Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:00 am  

Marc Green on twitter:

To those who say both club and I should drop fight against points deduction, I would agree with you...but then we'd all be wrong.

To those concerned about wasting money in fight against points deduction, I thank you, however, in reality, principles cost, simple as that.

I was always taught to fight for what I believe to be right, provided it is & in the fullness of time, this will be proven to be the case.

The most important thing right now is for us to get behind our new coach, a Bulls Legend remembering United We Stand, Divided We Fall. COYB

Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:03 am  

Errol Stock wrote:

I hope this appeal is about how the RFL behave and the rift between the RFL and SL clubs - and I am assuming most of the owners/chairmen are unhappy with how the game is being run.

Of course, I may be miles off the marc, but we won't know until the case is heard.

So we have a legal case to test your assumptions, which you have no real idea whether there is substance to your claim? That's very generous of the Bulls to fund that bit of expensive market research.

Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:23 am  

I applaud Marc Green on his stance and he is going up in my opinion.

Its a shame the High Court can only rule on whether our appeal should be heard and not be able to do a transparent root and branch investigation into the roles each person played in bringing us to this point.

Although I never liked the look of OK I do think we have a good owner in Marc Green. Time will tell.

Its frustrating and tiresome for fans to have to keep dealing with off field issues but its clear to me the RFL had a good sized hand in our current position and they should be held accountable.

Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:29 am  

What if you finish more than 6 points a drift of Wakey? Wont the club of wasted tens of thousands they could be using for squad development for 2015?

[Bulliac]

Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:45 am  

Derwent wrote:

Yes they do, but when you become a member club of the RFL you sign a contract of membership which binds you to abide by the articles and operational rules of the organisation. Remember, the RFL is not an autonomous organisation, it is a collective of member clubs.

So, having agreed to abide by those conditions of membership (which include the acceptance of the decisions made by any panel, tribunal or committee) and if the documented processes have been followed, then unless the conditions of membership are unlawful then how could a court overturn them ?

Also, who exactly are the club taking action against ? The RFL or the independent panel ? It was not the RFL who refused to even consider the club's appeal.

Problem is we're just fans Derwent, and have no actual knowledge of what is going on, hence threads like this, we're flapping around in the dark and trying to make some sense out of it all.

Articles of association do indeed bind member clubs, they usually, along with the right to make certain actions, also confer some responsibilities onto the ruling body, even if something no more arduous than acting within their own articles. This I suspect, but clearly as a fan, don't know, may well be where this is leading.

Incidentally, you say the RFL didn't rule out the Bulls' appeal, but someone set the parameters for the appeal, parameters which, it would appear, were so restrictive that Green has decided court is the only option. I'm pretty sure the independent committee didn't set their own rules of engagement. Ultimately, if you decide the battle field, you have a very strong chance of winning.

Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:53 am  

Double post, sorry!

Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:54 am  

Taken from the tweet at the top of the page from Marc Green:

"To those concerned about wasting money in fight against points deduction, I thank you, however, in reality, principles cost, simple as that.
I was always taught to fight for what I believe to be right, provided it is & in the fullness of time, this will be proven to be the case."

IF come the time of getting to the high court or before, if it becomes mathematically impossible for the bulls to stay up - 6 points returned or not - will these morals be reversed or forgotten about or do you think that he fully intends to go through with the case and get his day(s) in court?

They are admirably strong and passionate words, but if he chucks it in before his big day, his mral value's would be called into question?

Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:12 pm  

Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge http://sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms

Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge http://sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms

Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:18 pm  

Blotto wrote: Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge http://sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms Dont quite get this bit, i read the articles and could see no mention of either.

Blotto wrote: Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge http://sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms Dont quite get this bit, i read the articles and could see no mention of either.

Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:23 pm  

Blotto wrote: Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge http://sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms Why has Dr K got nothing to lose?, relegation is still a possibility for Salford at this point in time.

Blotto wrote: Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge http://sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms Why has Dr K got nothing to lose?, relegation is still a possibility for Salford at this point in time.