Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:11 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Bore off FA. I ain't interested.

In facts? No, that's true, you're not

Luckily I'm here for you

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:18 pm  

Sensei-Bull wrote:

It might just be me being a miserable git but I don't think this Charnock signing solves anything. If we're only concerned about the next month then just stick Addy back at scrum half and you'll see a marked improvement over recent weeks. Obviously not the standard we all want but I'm sure it will see us through a "month". Hopefully Rohan is smart enough to realise that he dropped a clanger playing Mathers at scrum half.

I don't think I've ever felt as down about the Bulls as I do now. All that money spent on the team and we're still in this situation. The end of the season can't come quick enough for me. A major clean out is required. I only hope that we are already lining up quality replacements.

Addy hasn't worked at SH and never will. He's a decent ball playing LF. Addy played HB in the pitiful second half when we didn't look like scoring despite receiving about 15 pens on the bounce. I don't get this "let's get through the month" this month will either see us in the top 4 or we're out and in the shield. Its a huge month.

We've got an actual SH and people still moan. He might not be brilliant but he can't be worse than a second-rower or Mathers playing there. We're not going to sign Jamie Soward end of. If he does become available then the top SL teams in SL will want him along with the likes of Hull KR and Salford who could offer wages of around £200k.

A young HB from a decent SL side is about the best we can hope for at this stage as we cocked up on pre-season, along with Mullaney and Siejka leaving.

If Kieran Moss can offer something from the back, with an actual SH and Addy offering support from 13 we will look better.

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:36 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Addy hasn't worked at SH and never will. He's a decent ball playing LF. Addy played HB in the pitiful second half when we didn't look like scoring despite receiving about 15 pens on the bounce. I don't get this "let's get through the month" this month will either see us in the top 4 or we're out and in the shield. Its a huge month.

We've got an actual SH and people still moan. He might not be brilliant but he can't be worse than a second-rower or Mathers playing there. We're not going to sign Jamie Soward end of. If he does become available then the top SL teams in SL will want him along with the likes of Hull KR and Salford who could offer wages of around £200k.

A young HB from a decent SL side is about the best we can hope for at this stage as we cocked up on pre-season, along with Mullaney and Siejka leaving.

If Kieran Moss can offer something from the back, with an actual SH and Addy offering support from 13 we will look better.

Your posted would make perfect sense if Charnock was a SH but he's not, he's a standoff. Please tell me if the bloke can play SH because I have no idea? As much as Addy isn't a scrum half I'll be very interested to see how much better Charnock will be if played out of position than him? I would love to be proved wrong but even if we get through the next month (which we should anyway) what happens then? Gaskell comes back and we're still a team without direction.

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:50 pm  

Sensei-Bull wrote:

Your posted would make perfect sense if Charnock was a SH but he's not, he's a standoff. Please tell me if the bloke can play SH because I have no idea? As much as Addy isn't a scrum half I'll be very interested to see how much better Charnock will be if played out of position than him? I would love to be proved wrong but even if we get through the next month (which we should anyway) what happens then? Gaskell comes back and we're still a team without direction.

He played SH for the saints reserves on Saturday (i think Rohan was watching him) scored 2 tries and kicked 6/9 goals.

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:04 pm  

My only hope is that the bloke comes in and does the job and then is available until the end of the season.

I don't understand why the Bulls say it's cover for Gaskell if he's here to play SH?

I'm trying not to be negative but I can't work out the logic in some of the things the Bulls have done over the past couple of years. The Mathers and Lovegrove signings take the biscuit.

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:31 pm  

Sensei-Bull wrote:

Your posted would make perfect sense if Charnock was a SH but he's not, he's a standoff. Please tell me if the bloke can play SH because I have no idea? As much as Addy isn't a scrum half I'll be very interested to see how much better Charnock will be if played out of position than him? I would love to be proved wrong but even if we get through the next month (which we should anyway) what happens then? Gaskell comes back and we're still a team without direction.

He played scrum half for Leigh. (I'd been told he was a hooker! ) Anyway, is there much/any difference between a scrum half/stand off/hooker these days?

It's not like a tea lady - now there's a real specialist role!

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:39 pm  

Alan wrote:

He played scrum half for Leigh. (I'd been told he was a hooker! ) Anyway, is there much/any difference between a scrum half/stand off/hooker these days?

It's not like a tea lady - now there's a real specialist role!

We don't have anyone on our books who can time a pass or put in a decent attacking kick. We'll pretty much take whatever we can get at this point!

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:42 pm  

I confess I've never seen Charnock play, but a player who can't get a sniff at Saints even when they've shunted out Burns, and Walsh is crocked, must be well down their pecking order.

Still, beggars can't be choosers...

Let's hope he provides a bit of spark.

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:48 pm  

Alan wrote:

He played scrum half for Leigh. (I'd been told he was a hooker! ) Anyway, is there much/any difference between a scrum half/stand off/hooker these days?

It's not like a tea lady - now there's a real specialist role!

Didn't he only play in one game?

As for the link between standoff, scrum half and hooker being similar then it all depends on the individuals being compared. If your stand off is Danny Brough or Trent Barrett then yeah, the half back positions are similar. If it's Lee Gaskell or Danny Mcguire then they are not.

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:50 pm  

" The Mathers and Lovegrove signings take the biscuit."

I agree with you regarding Mathers but disagree with you re Lovegrove. An excellent forward in Championship terms who never takes a backward step .I just hope he makes a full recovery from the head injury .