Re: Toronto and our chances of SL invite : Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:24 pm  

Not the end of the world by any means. It will be an entertaining comp next year. Let's just hope supporters get to watch it in person.

Concerns remain for beyond 2021 but a year is a long time in Rugby League!!

Re: Toronto and our chances of SL invite : Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:47 pm  

Well, that’s put to bed now. Onwards upwards, looking forward to a good crack at championship next season.

[Bulliac]

Re: Toronto and our chances of SL invite : Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:21 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote:

Are we better staying at Dewsbury for another year and saving a bit of cash?

I think that is unlikely as things stand.

For one thing, although we agreed a two year term with Dewsbury, the RFL only gave permission for one season, which we've had (sort of..) so it would need their approval, Which, given the recent developments (in the situation, that is, not the ground, as yet) would be unlikely as we seem to be a key part of the move by Startrax and the RFL.

No-one could ever say that being a Bulls' fan was boring.

Re: Toronto and our chances of SL invite : Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:28 pm  

Congratulations to Leigh. Looks the strongest squad on paper to have gone up and just signed Flower and Sidlow.

Whilst we weren't successful has this just energised our pre-season, got the club back to Bradford and significantly weakened the Championship?

Re: Toronto and our chances of SL invite : Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:52 pm  

Don't really see what benefit of staying at Dewsbury another year would be.

We need to be in Bradford or our support is going to drift away. One year at Dewsbury was borderline palatable but its not a a long-term solution. Not saying Odsal is either but if we can get costs down to a manageable level then its best option we have at moment. Horsfall's too small and VP's too expensive plus we miss out on corporate takings entirely..

Big expenses at Odsal were maintenance and business rates which will both be split with stock cars now. From memory of figures bandied around there wasn't a massive difference in rent between Odsal and Dewsbury. At least at Odsal we get to keep all the bar and corporate takings, whereas we had to give Dewsbury a split this year. I'd guess with those factors taken into consideration financially there isn't much difference between Odsal and Dewsbury.

Re: Toronto and our chances of SL invite : Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:03 pm  

M@islebugs wrote:

Whilst we weren't successful has this just energised our pre-season, got the club back to Bradford and significantly weakened the Championship?

I wonder too. All the bile and jibes aimed at us, I wonder how much it will galvanise the squad. We've the best motivator in charge too. I think we've a good squad, not the best, but a good squad who looked impressive before this season was cut short. If JK can get an "us against the world" type attitude, and aiming to shut up some of the twitter gob$h1t3 cowards, I think we can have a real crack next year.

Re: Toronto and our chances of SL invite : Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:14 pm  

Despite dodging a bullet in the SL beauty contest. The pantomime season has started with the ongoing Odsal saga, The way forward to getting the Bulls back to Odsal is looking decidedly amateurish and rushed, still despite that there is a modicum of hope that Odsal can become a reasonably functioning stadium again even if there will be an atmosphere of burnt oil and petrol in the air!

Re: Toronto and our chances of SL invite : Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:30 pm  

My take on things is this: by missing out on SL we have been given a years grace to get Odsal (together with our partners) into some sort of shape ready for 2022 franchise application.

[Bulliac]

Re: Toronto and our chances of SL invite : Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:48 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote:

My take on things is this: by missing out on SL we have been given a years grace to get Odsal (together with our partners) into some sort of shape ready for 2022 franchise application.

Our 'problem' has always been the lack of any serious money behind us. Until that problem has a solution I don't think we have any chance of SL. As things stand, the money we actually have is likely disappear down the 'Odsal plughole' which, IIRC was the reason we left for Dewsbury in the first place.

I really don't want to be pessimistic but I really can't understand just how things are stacking up for SL right now. For sure we will have some help in plugging the Odsal moneyhole but the costs of attracting an SL side are going to be down to us and without some semi serious finance behind us I can't quite square that particular circle on that right now.

Re: Toronto and our chances of SL invite : Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:13 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Our 'problem' has always been the lack of any serious money behind us. Until that problem has a solution I don't think we have any chance of SL. As things stand, the money we actually have is likely disappear down the 'Odsal plughole' which, IIRC was the reason we left for Dewsbury in the first place.

I really don't want to be pessimistic but I really can't understand just how things are stacking up for SL right now. For sure we will have some help in plugging the Odsal moneyhole but the costs of attracting an SL side are going to be down to us and without some semi serious finance behind us I can't quite square that particular circle on that right now.

You are correct about the money. Is there a club in SL that doesn't have a sugar-daddy. I don't think Salford do but they had all their debts written off by Koukash