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Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:04 am  
LeagueDweeb wrote:
OK Bulls actually received the full allocation of Sky money in 2013. It got the same as every other club. The original plan was 50% over the two remaining years of the licence, with it all to be paid in the second year.

Omar Khan asked for the Sky money to be advanced so the amount of money that was scheduled for year 2, which was in effect one full years money, was handed over in year 1.

The truth is that OK Bulls had the same money as every other club, but still went under because it was so badly run by Khan & Whitcut.



That's simply not true. 2013, the other clubs took the Bulls Sky money to the tune of about £1 million.

You can look it up.
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Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:08 am  
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Why would the RFL "hang you out to dry" when they have previously bent over backwards to help you out with Iconicgate.


The questions are many, and many of them are aimed at finding out amongst other things whether they did or they didn't. Maybe they did. If they did, then we may find out the reasons eventually, or we may not, but I don't think your question progresses anything, since while plenty of suggestions and claims have been widely made, but nobody on here is the RFL and ultimately only they could answer it.
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Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:10 am  
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Was it? So ALL clubs that go into administration have SIX points deducted? Is that what you are saying?


Yep, if that's what the independent panel says - or are you the paranoid one and they have got it in for you and your the paranoid one - think about it and the point I was replying to :IDEA:
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Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:19 am  
Q. What goes, clip clop clip clop bang bang clippety clop clippety clop clippety clop?
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Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:29 am  
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Yep, if that's what the independent panel says - or are you the paranoid one and they have got it in for you and your the paranoid one - think about it and the point I was replying to :IDEA:


The point you replied to is that the ruling is the only fair one. I am asking if you think it is fair then that ALL clubs get six points for admin? Is it black and white?

It is either six points for admin or it's not surely?
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Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:33 am  
Mirfieldbull wrote:
Do you concede that the fact the RFL had egg all over their face over firstly granting a license to a business plan with more holes in it than a piece of mozzarella, then secondly buying the lease on an iconic stadium due to a 'short term' cash flow problem might, just might, have set some people in the RFL on a course to make an example of the club! Mr. Hood and his board were the guilty party in that, subsequent people trying to clear up the mess are the one's punished. Is that not a possibility in your world?

And they did all that for you and yet some of your more illustious and vocal supporters still think that after all that and an independent panel sifting through what ever cig pack backs they could find in the red hall bins, that they have been hard done by.
If they (the RFL) had dealt with the club properly at the point you have illistrated you would very possibly have gone out of SL there and then, baring in mind how some supporters are acting now after an independent review of sorts how do you think that would have been received.
The fact that it was double bent from day one makes it hard for anyone to assume now everything is on the level, but you have the results from the panel to at least attempt to assure you it is.
I would imagine the RFL big wigs are wondering why on earth they threw you that life belt in the first place.
I'm sorry so many people are so upset, i would have been if i were in your shoes, hell we have more chips than Harry Ramsdens, but you have the result, now you have to move on.
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Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:34 am  
My Cousin, my very own flesh and blood who is a Wakefield fan sent me a thoughtful message via Facebook. So magnanimous and humble was it that I feel I need to share it with you.

He told me that Bradford are poop, have no history, should just go die. Oh and all the fans are junkies.

Makes you feel all warm inside doesn't it.
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Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:36 am  
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It is either six points for admin or it's not surely?


I heard a rumour that when Wakefield went into admin, they were only deducted four points, and that they got to keep their full share of the sky money.
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Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:41 am  
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I heard a rumour that when Wakefield went into admin, they were only deducted four points, and that they got to keep their full share of the sky money.


No, no, that can't be right. Because that would not be fair, and our Wakey friends are all for fairness.
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Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:45 am  
BullCharge wrote:
I heard a rumour that when Wakefield went into admin, they were only deducted four points, and that they got to keep their full share of the sky money.

Lesson 1. We paid off some of our creditors rather than spending it on players, hence the four points.
Lesson 2. We didnt get our ground pretected by the rfl. i think if we had instead of it becoming an assett of the BoI maybe we'd have had the same treatment.
Seriously guys, youve been on thin ice for so long, sooner or later it was going to crack, concentrate on swimming to safety.
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