Re: 2017 Squad : Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:55 am  

paulwalker71 wrote:

If we consider Joseph as a straight replacement for Lauaki, then I think we'd agree it is a significant upgrade

More minutes on the itch, more impact, less wages = win

What if he's a straight replacement for Lauaki and Clark...?!

Re: 2017 Squad : Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:57 am  

In the T&A article it mentions players staying but AOB is not in the list. Hopefully it is an oversight and not a hint he is on his way. Glad to say re-checked article and AOB is now added to list.

[Bulliac]

Re: 2017 Squad : Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:55 am  

What I like about Joseph is his attitude. He is a bit small for a prop but he comes with a bit of mongrel, something we've lacked too much over the last year or so. However we view it, he's been knocking around SL over the last two seasons and we haven't, so it's welcome back Phil, from me.

Re: 2017 Squad : Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:12 am  

Wasn't there a point where Joseph was taking up boxing too? Or was that someone else? Edit: Never mind. Answered my own question with a quick google search. Doesn't suggest he'll be a soft touch

Wasn't there a point where Joseph was taking up boxing too? Or was that someone else? Edit: Never mind. Answered my own question with a quick google search. Doesn't suggest he'll be a soft touch

Re: 2017 Squad : Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:35 am  

I think everyone liked Joseph, he looks small - until he runs at you. Shame not all the team had his attitude, if you ask me.

Re: 2017 Squad : Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:01 am  

HamsterChops wrote:

Getting paid late on your first pay day would do it for me.

I mentioned on a different post about needing some reassuring messages from the club, but was told by the oracle "Did I want the club to lie". Imagine the sales pitch to Joseph - Come to the Bulls, they are a legendary club who really ought to be in Super League. We can't guarantee we will always pay you on time, oh and by the way we have a winding up petition to sort out. OK says Joseph, where do I sign. Some salesman Rohan or Duffy must be! To me the mixed messages are totally confusing. We are signing players. Why would they come to us if future wages are uncertain to be paid? Unless they are given some reassurance that signing for us is not really a risk!!! Yet Longo comes and goes at the speed of light for whatever reason, and we can only presume why he would go.

The Ross article today paints an unhealthy scenario of unpaid wages and winding up orders, yet the club will soon (presumably) announce season tickets details and want the supporters to commit, without really offering too much in terms of reasoning. Surely something along the lines of "watch this space things are happening behind the scenes" "Stick with us its being sorted out" "Things are tough but we are getting there" Anything would be better than the nothing that we are getting just now at a time when the club surely ought to be on a major PR push.

[Bullseye]

Re: 2017 Squad : Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:15 am  

Communication hasn’t been a strong point of the club in the past couple of years. That said it’s doesn’t take a genius to work out what’s going on. We’re in a pickle financially and it’s touch and go until we get some season ticket money in and some big earners off the books. This situation is going to last some time and I can see why Green doesn’t want to give a running commentary on it. If he comes out with titbits of info that “we’re dealing with it” then he’ll have to do it every pay day.

Re: 2017 Squad : Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:05 pm  

BeechwoodBull wrote:

I mentioned on a different post about needing some reassuring messages from the club, but was told by the oracle "Did I want the club to lie"....

You're missing the point, so I'll spell it out: If money is so tight that you know you're going to struggle to pay all the wages on time for the foreseeable, then what "reassuring message" can you honestly put out, without lying?

So come on, in that case, what would you have them do?

Re: 2017 Squad : Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:32 pm  

The point is that one Green first arrived and we had those big fan meetings - there was one at Cedar Court where I ended up in the overflow due to the huge numbers, for example - there was a lot of stuff from him about 'I'm as honest as the day is long' and 'You'll find me a pretty straight kinda guy' (It's from memory but I think they are word-for-word quotes)

Now, I know a lot has changed since then, but you really can't ride into a club and make those kind of statements, and not have people reminding him that he said those things if he then chooses to go completely silent and say absolutely nothing for months on end.

I don't exactly know what kind of 'statement' Marc Green could or can make right now, or what he could do to assuage the fears. But somehow he needs to do something to rebuild trust with a whole section of the fans who appear to be losing faith with the club.

In a few days we'll be hearing about the season ticket offer. It won't be enough to just rehash the line about 'if you want a Super League Quality Squad then you have to be willing to pay for it'. He fed us that line for the last two years, and we've got steadily worse!

He's got to do a bit more than that to get me buying a season ticket again, I'm afraid! It's a case of twice bitten, thrice shy...

Re: 2017 Squad : Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:31 pm  

It's going to be innovative though, supposedly. So that'll be fun. Perhaps it'll be a ticket to entertainment, or something!