Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:11 am  

A lot of mismanagement by numerous clubs over the years & they have got away with it. So yes the RL have got to get more involved & ensure bills etc are paid. Not sure how this can be done effectively .

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:39 am  

weighman wrote:

A lot of mismanagement by numerous clubs over the years & they have got away with it. So yes the RL have got to get more involved & ensure bills etc are paid. Not sure how this can be done effectively .

I don't think that was his issue. It was their lack of professionalism and understanding that led to him withdrawing his offer.
I'd also question whether any previous mis-management led to the club 'getting away with it' as you put, but whatever. Not having that argument again.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:53 am  

So to recap, they asset stripped our only asset in an act of unbridled favouritism and now they want people to build a shiny new 'utopia' for their vision of a professional club in Bradford but are unwilling to return that asset to a new club, and they are probably wondering why no-one of massive worth is interested.

I know it's a massively simplified statement but still...

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:05 am  

Scarey71 wrote:

So to recap, they asset stripped our only asset in an act of unbridled favouritism and now they want people to build a shiny new 'utopia' for their vision of a professional club in Bradford but are unwilling to return that asset to a new club, and they are probably wondering why no-one of massive worth is interested.

I know it's a massively simplified statement but still...

Let's not forget how they ended up with the lease. That, in my opinion, is completely the fault of our incompetent owners at the time. I wouldn't really call it asset stripping when it was offered to them as part repayment of a loan we couldn't repay

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:11 am  

Nothus wrote:

Let's not forget how they ended up with the lease. That, in my opinion, is completely the fault of our incompetent owners at the time. I wouldn't really call it asset stripping when it was offered to them as part repayment of a loan we couldn't repay

They should have let nature take it course at that point, they saw an opportunity and took it is my view.

If the brown sticky stuff was fully allowed to interface with the air circulation device at that point we'd have stood a better chance. My opinion obviously but one round of utter pain would have been better than death by more than a thousand cuts.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:29 am  

weighman wrote:

A lot of mismanagement by numerous clubs over the years & they have got away with it. So yes the RL have got to get more involved & ensure bills etc are paid. Not sure how this can be done effectively .

The RFL should require every member club to have the same accounting year end date (30 Nov or 31 Dec?) and should require FULL audited accounts (not the abbreviated accounts most submit to Companies House) to be submitted to the RFL within say 4 months of the year end (shorter than the statutory timescale). All part of the requirements of membership of the RFL. Over time, would force clubs to get their financial controls and reporting into good shape.

[Bullseye]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:35 am  

That would require the RFL to have the expertise to interpret them and to impartially act upon the result.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:37 am  

Bullseye wrote:

That would require the RFL to have the expertise to interpret them and to impartially act upon the result.

Why don't you tell us what you really think?

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:44 am  

Bullseye wrote:

That would require the RFL to have the expertise to interpret them and to impartially act upon the result.

Easy enough to solve. Take £5K from each SL club's central funding and employ someone at the RFL who could audit accounts.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:14 am  

Scarey71 wrote:

So to recap, they asset stripped our only asset in an act of unbridled favouritism and now they want people to build a shiny new 'utopia' for their vision of a professional club in Bradford but are unwilling to return that asset to a new club, and they are probably wondering why no-one of massive worth is interested.

I know it's a massively simplified statement but still...

How is it asset stripping? What are the RFL making out of holding the head lease? They would be better off saying to Bradford, here have it back, you pay the bills.