Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:45 am  

TrinityIHC wrote:

Why would the RFL "hang you out to dry" when they have previously bent over backwards to help you out with Iconicgate.

Richard Lewis > Nigel Wood.

Richard Lewis was a man who constantly put his head above the parapet to help and support our game and clubs to be the best they could be.

Nigel Wood is a buffoon who simply wants to keep hold of his job. His idea to do that is to shore up support from the lower leagues by selling them a pigeon they think is the maltese falcon, then devolve any and all responsibility from himself so no blame can be laid at his door.

Richard Lewis made sure that the game kept a major asset in Odsal. Nigel Wood has ensured a contraction of the league. Richard Lewis made sure that if Bradford went bust and Odsal was lost. Some money would come back in to the game. Nigel Wood made sure Bradford went bust. Richard Lewis made sure clubs had time and space to grow. Nigel Wood has most likely, all but destroyed one of our major clubs.

Richard Lewis is a renowned sports administrator who has chaired organisations many times larger than the RFL, like Sport England and the All England club, putting on world famous sporting events like Wimbledon.

Nigel Wood took halifax RL to the brink of destruction, now works with Ralph Rimmer. Put on a good World Cup organised in large by Sally Bolton. Promptly lost her.

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:46 am  

kinleycat wrote:

Lesson 1. We paid off some of our creditors rather than spending it on players, hence the four points.

Lesson 2. They got over a million pounds more in funding to start with.

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:53 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

Q. What goes, clip clop clip clop bang bang clippety clop clippety clop clippety clop?
A. A drive-by shooting in Wakefield.

I'd get some more expensive crackers this year if I were you.

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:04 pm  

[quote="kinleycat"]Lesson 1. We paid off some of our creditors, hence the four points.
[quote]

And we didn't? You know this how?

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:06 pm  

TrinityIHC wrote:

I'd get some more expensive crackers this year if I were you.

Looks that way.

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:07 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Lesson 1. We paid off some of our creditors rather than spending it on players, hence the four points.

Lesson 3 - don't make a fool of yourself with statements that do not stand up to scrutiny.

Re lesson 3:

1 - When your lot went bust, Glover seemingly said he would pay off SOME creditors (I gather it was maybe 10%, and NONE of the £750k debt due to HMRC), so - within days - the RFL mitigated the 6 points to 4. I understand well before Glover actually paid anyone.

2 - When OKB went into administration, Moore & co had stated they intended to settle with the creditors. Subsequent documentation and statements strongly indicates that the intent was to settle with ALL the trade creditors. And I have seen nothing to suggest the RFL knew nothing of this. Indeed, I was personally told this was the intention ON THE DAY. HMRC were owed about 1/3 of what you lot owed HMRC, btw. Yet the RFL took several weeks, not days, and then deducted 6 points ANYWAY - even though material had been issued stating creditors would be paid.

3 - After the administration, BB2014 did not spend a CENT on players. So, can you explain what "We paid off some of our creditors rather than spending it on players" means? In the context of why you were decucted only 4 points, days after the adminstration order? Whereas bulls were deducted 6 points, weeks after?

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:19 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Lesson 3 - don't make a fool of yourself with statements that do not stand up to scrutiny.

Re lesson 3:

1 - When your lot went bust, Glover seemingly said he would pay off SOME creditors (I gather it was maybe 10%, and NONE of the £750k debt due to HMRC), so - within days - the RFL mitigated the 6 points to 4. I understand well before Glover actually paid anyone.

2 - When OKB went into administration, Moore & co had stated they intended to settle with the creditors. Subsequent documentation and statements strongly indicates that the intent was to settle with ALL the trade creditors. And I have seen nothing to suggest the RFL knew nothing of this. Indeed, I was personally told this was the intention ON THE DAY. HMRC were owed about 1/3 of what you lot owed HMRC, btw. Yet the RFL took several weeks, not days, and then deducted 6 points ANYWAY - even though material had been issued stating creditors would be paid.

3 - After the administration, BB2014 did not spend a CENT on players. So, can you explain what "We paid off some of our creditors rather than spending it on players" means? In the context of why you were decucted only 4 points, days after the adminstration order? Whereas bulls were deducted 6 points, weeks after?

Dont stand up to scrutiny? You are the one still banging on after an independent review has gone against everything you have been saying.
How did the independent panel view all your misgivings? By ratifying the RFLs ban.
I.e they have acted accordingly and you had no proof to the contrary.
Seriously you need to take time out, because you and a few others are starting to embarass yourselves and your other supporters who can accept some reality.

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:25 pm  

debaser wrote:

The point you replied to is that the ruling is the only fair one. I am asking if you think it is fair then that ALL clubs get six points for admin? Is it black and white?

It is either six points for admin or it's not surely?

No I didn't if I had I'd be replying to myself

What I replied to is your accusation that Wakefield fans are paranoid. You then follow that up with your own paranoia - have you got any of this yet.

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:26 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Dont stand up to scrutiny? You are the one still banging on after an independent review has gone against everything you have been saying.
How did the independent panel view all your misgivings? By ratifying the RFLs ban.
I.e they have acted accordingly and you had no proof to the contrary.
Seriously you need to take time out, because you and a few others are starting to embarass yourselves and your other supporters who can accept some reality.

The Tribunal were asked to rule on whether Force Majeure applied or not. Green's statement that they determined there was not any evidence to rule on is the decision they made, not whether 6 points was the right penalty. They had a yes/no question to answer, if they answered yes, the discussion MAY have gone to what was the appropriate penalty, although in my view if they had ruled a Force Majeure situation existed, it would have been all 6 back.

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:26 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Dont stand up to scrutiny? You are the one still banging on after an independent review has gone against everything you have been saying.
How did the independent panel view all your misgivings? By ratifying the RFLs ban.
I.e they have acted accordingly and you had no proof to the contrary.
Seriously you need to take time out, because you and a few others are starting to embarass yourselves and your other supporters who can accept some reality.

Yep but remember we are the paranoid ones not the world owes us a living because we used to be good Bulls.

I've never seen a human being more in denial than Adybull, it's quite sad.