Re: Whitehaven (H) : Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:13 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

On reflection I have to agree with that, but if I were Lowes then my first job this week would have been a chat with that idiot Siejka, who the more I have thought about it, I think ultimately cost us the match. He isn't to blame for being a shoite goalkicker, I'm sure he did his best, but still, had he kicked his goals; and he can only do the job he is told to do; but that job does not include setting the worst example, and getting himself totally needlessly sent off the field of play, that was ludicrous and I would be sorely tempted to publicly drop him for his behaviour. I couldn't believe my eyes, if I'm honest. And there's a chance come Thursday the disciplinary may give the idiot a short break anyway.

I think the first thing Lowes needs to do is rapidly sort out the goalkicking, we have a big squad and unless Siejka can rapidly show an ability to become a kicker, then there must be someone who can do it at least passably. Hopefully he will get a lot of practice next weekend and before. But as things stand, he is a seven day camel ride off being a reliable kicker of pressure goals.

Isn't disciplinary for championship still held Tuesday week after the game ie next Tuesday and any bans served starting the game after , fev away?

Re: Whitehaven (H) : Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:16 pm  

mat wrote:

Isn't disciplinary for championship still held Tuesday week after the game ie next Tuesday and any bans served starting the game after , fev away?

I know they look at the incidents on the Thursday (ie tomorrow), but wondered if he is charged with something and if it is an EGP matter and if he takes an EGP then that could be this weekend?

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Re: Whitehaven (H) : Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:42 pm  

I wondered the same thing FA. I can see us being without Siejka and Williams.

I agree with all the points raised above. I think he can shoulder a lot of the blame for the loss given that Leigh got alot of joy shifting the ball wide when he was off for commiting his stupid foul in the 2nd half. The 6 points he failed to kick are a moot point. The conversion he missed in the second half was so kickable I could've done it myself which is saying something.

I'd also like us to sign Sammut but I wonder if he's burnt his bridges with us given the way he left. We are lacking halfback cover and I can see this biting us in the behind at some stage.

Re: Whitehaven (H) : Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:45 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I know they look at the incidents on the Thursday (ie tomorrow), but wondered if he is charged with something and if it is an EGP matter and if he takes an EGP then that could be this weekend?

Yeah there doesn't seem to be quite enough time to get everything done disciplinary wise before the games at the weekend, especially if some teams play on a Friday night (like Dewsbury last week).
Perhaps the games are reviewed on Thursday and any charges are issued, players have 24 hours to respond as usual, and then the review panel is held early next week ie Tuesday as originally mentioned?

Seems an odd way to do it but that's quickly becoming a common feature of the Championship!

Re: Whitehaven (H) : Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:33 pm  

Given the 3 games he's played for us, I don't think Siejka is a first choice goal kicker. I'm not sure of the exact stats but I'm pretty sure he's currently less than 50% successful. Given that every point could matter come the end of the season, I think we need to find someone with better aim

Re: Whitehaven (H) : Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:38 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

Given the 3 games he's played for us, I don't think Siejka is a first choice goal kicker. I'm not sure of the exact stats but I'm pretty sure he's currently less than 50% successful. Given that every point could matter come the end of the season, I think we need to find someone with better aim

For me it's not even his success ratio, it's his current kicking style, most good kickers, when the ball's been kicked, it looks convincing but his just sort of peedle about. You expect him to miss. If he is akicker then I cling to the hope that a kicking coach can sort him out, but somebody reminded us Mullaney was kicker for Salford so for me I'd give him that job right now. Siejka has enough on his plate trying to stay on the field.

Re: Whitehaven (H) : Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:49 pm  

Nothus wrote:

Yeah there doesn't seem to be quite enough time to get everything done disciplinary wise before the games at the weekend, especially if some teams play on a Friday night (like Dewsbury last week).
Perhaps the games are reviewed on Thursday and any charges are issued, players have 24 hours to respond as usual, and then the review panel is held early next week ie Tuesday as originally mentioned?

Seems an odd way to do it but that's quickly becoming a common feature of the Championship!

If I understand it correctly that's how it happens. charge panel is held on Tuesday afternoon then same charge panel does SL charges Tuesday evening. So any charges earned against leigh wont kick in until next week. it would actually be better for us if any charges from last weekend were dealt with this week and any suspensions served against Whitehaven, which in all likelihood will be a less tough fixture than Featherstone, no disrespect to haven.

Re: Whitehaven (H) : Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:12 pm  

Hopefully mullaney or gaskell will kick goals Sunday i would bring herny into the centre for chev and move him to loose or we might even she him given the weekend off

Re: Whitehaven (H) : Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:01 am  

Duckman wrote:

I remember Mullaney kicking one from the touchline to beat Hull away last year, need to give someone else a go or see if Shaw can fit in somewhere...must be room available in the threequarters if Walker can get a start at Centre.

On the HB options, I really wish we'd have picked up Sammut, he's still nowhere near the first choice at Wakey and Sammut, Gaskell and Seijka would give us more cover and options. Might even be able to get Sammut on loan if he continues getting no game time at Wakey but I've lost track of our quota position tbh and it might not be an option ?

Sammut actually is a very good goal kicker, close rival to Gale if I remember correctly.
Never remember Siejka as a notable kicker.

Re: Whitehaven (H) : Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:50 am  

According to the T&A, disciplinary charges are to be announced tomorrow