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Re: OT - In/Out : Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:33 pm  
Remain.

I prefer scaremongering to outright lies.
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Re: OT - In/Out : Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:49 pm  
I prefer spending my own money on what i feel is important to me, rather than sending a few quid every week to a rhinos fan, and then having them give me half of it back to spend on season tickets for watching united!!!
Happy days....
We'll still be bleating about the e.u well after tomorrow night....
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Re: OT - In/Out : Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:53 pm  
I'm excited about the prospect of the UK being able to negotiate trade deals with non EU countries.

I already do quite a lot of personal trade with China and the prices are far more competitive than what I would get in the EU.

Ordering items from China is just as easy as ordering them from any European country. The delivery time is pretty similar as well.

There seems to be a message from the remain campaign that we would lose out on deals if we're not sat at the big table. I wonder how countries like New Zealand, Australia, China and America survive as they cannot be included in the 'amazing' European Union.
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Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:24 am  
As someone that works in the freight industry I think a vote to leave will be a bad move for our economy. That means ultimately the poorest and youngest people will pay the highest price. Amongst other things that seem to resonate with the vote leave lot is that I think the situation at Calais will be a hundred times worse as lorries will now have to be customs cleared as well as checked for migrants creating even bigger delays. Plus france might not feel obliged to let us have our border there. It seems a bit short sighted.


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And all the polls show the young generation want to remain, but it's too close to call because old gits have the perverted sense of superiority over foreigners and will vote leave, despite it not being their blo0dy future they're destroying.


I agree as with all things people over 60 should be banned from voting. That generation have had their chance and royally f****d things up. Especially after all the hard work the generation above that put in winning the war and setting up the EU and nhs etc.
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Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:36 am  
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I'm excited about the prospect of the UK being able to negotiate trade deals with non EU countries.

I already do quite a lot of personal trade with China and the prices are far more competitive than what I would get in the EU.

Ordering items from China is just as easy as ordering them from any European country. The delivery time is pretty similar as well.

There seems to be a message from the remain campaign that we would lose out on deals if we're not sat at the big table. I wonder how countries like New Zealand, Australia, China and America survive as they cannot be included in the 'amazing' European Union.


I'm guessing if you find the transit time similar you're buying parcel sized goods transported by courier?

Please bare in mind that the largest portion of that cost is actually attributed to process in UK. Air freight part of it costs pence per kilo.
Without EU workers the already crisis state of the driver and warehousing staff shortages will ensure that those goods will inevitably shoot up in price.

Although of course we don't know what brexit will look like. It's more than likely we'll actually end up with a situation where we've signed up to most of EU's rules in return for free trade. Such things like accepting refugee's, fisheries rules, funding, border less travel etc. EU members will probably continue to move to UK without visas etc.

That is of course as long as the unelected House of Lords and queen sign the results off.
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Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:40 am  
Leaving is like desperately wanting to pee in your pants. At first there's a feeling of relief and for a few moments it's nice and warm. Then it's cold and wet. And we're all forced to wear the same undies...forever.
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Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:53 am  
At least of we vote to leave there'll be a massive sum of 500 million trillion gazillion pounds a week (or whatever the current made up figure is) not being spent on EU membership for the Tories not to spend on the NHS.
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Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:13 am  
Voted.

As my wife says, vote early in the day - in case you die.... :shock:
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Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:46 am  
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I can't really put into words how important this is to me. I am extremely pro Europe and am pretty much beside myself about it.

Facebook makes me want to smash my phone or computer with a hammer until it becomes dust then I would kick the sh.it out of the dust.

There is no valid reason to leave the EU. As soon as I read anything from people who start explaining why we should leave, all I hear is "The world is flat because...." and "Evolution is a myth...". I regard them all as being equally bonkers.

I am ashamed of my fellow white working classes who have irrevocably destroyed their reputation in my eyes. They are the buffoons that seriously go around each day thinking "Britain is full". Is it boll0cks. No coward will ever just admit they want to see less brown faces. Instead they coat it in a sneering veneer of anti EU gibberish. One thing is totally certain, not every person who wants to leave the EU is racist, but every racist wants to leave the EU. All too often Euroscepticism is the acceptable face of racism.

And all the polls show the young generation want to remain, but it's too close to call because old gits have the perverted sense of superiority over foreigners and will vote leave, despite it not being their blo0dy future they're destroying.

I am very VERY het up about it all.

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Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 am  
The polls make for sad reading. Whilst Scotland & London are the strongest in the Remain camp, Yorkshire is the strongest for Leave :-(
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