Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:47 pm  

The bigger question is why they re-signed Gelling when they knew that finances would be extremely tight on relegation

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Re: Widnes : Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:31 am  

Rule was CEO wasn't he? If so that makes him an employee of the Widnes club, not a club owner. Would the RFL have a say in who a club employs as its CEO.

Seems like a poor choice by the Widnes directors to say the least.

As for Gelling I doubt we could afford him, Cas need a centre so I can see him gong there which leaves the way free for us to bring back Egodo for 2020.

Re: Widnes : Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:55 am  

Gelling on a reported £80k-£100k. As good a player as he is and the brilliant off field stuff we don't need him. Particualrly in the year we're competing with Toronto.. It just be a waste of money as we can't compete with them this year.

The problem Widnes have is when the vultures inevitably start picking off their players (even if they chose not to, Widnes will have to get rid of some as whoever takes over surely can't afford some of those big names) they already have a small squad as it is and could be left with kids. Then they fans have to endure them getting beaten up every week and sit and watch inevitable relegation. It's scary how much of a similar scenario it is to our own.

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Re: Widnes : Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:17 am  

Bull Mania wrote:

The problem Widnes have is when the vultures inevitably start picking off their players (even if they chose not to, Widnes will have to get rid of some as whoever takes over surely can't afford some of those big names) they already have a small squad as it is and could be left with kids. Then they fans have to endure them getting beaten up every week and sit and watch inevitable relegation. It's scary how much of a similar scenario it is to our own.

Can't see any other scenario for Widnes since the takeover fell through. If they go into admin that's a 12 point penalty. They'll lose some players and probably end up relegated. They'll hopefully get a new owner once the debts are written off but I expect them to be in L1 next year if they survive.

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Re: Widnes : Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:31 am  

In terms of retaining their squad Widnes mat be 'fortunate' in, unlike us, they are having problems after the season has started and not pre-season. At this point most clubs have settled squads, or at least have spent up by now so the raids may not be quite so voracious.

Re: Widnes : Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:34 am  

Nothus wrote:

They aren't even officially in admin yet!
And two wrongs don't make a right.

It's right for us to bring in players that improve the squad. If he can come at the right price then we absolutely should raid them.

They don't have to be admin either. If they need money or need to reduce costs then it's simple economics.

Re: Widnes : Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:39 am  

Bull Mania wrote:

Gelling on a reported £80k-£100k. As good a player as he is and the brilliant off field stuff we don't need him. Particualrly in the year we're competing with Toronto.. It just be a waste of money as we can't compete with them this year.

The problem Widnes have is when the vultures inevitably start picking off their players (even if they chose not to, Widn we are comes will have to get rid of some as whoever takes over surely cant afford some of those big names) they already have a small squad as it is and could be left with kids. Then they fans have to endure them getting beaten up every week and sit and watch inevitable relegation. It's scary how much of a similar scenario it i s to our own.

You've got it all wrong mate. We are competing with them.
And we are competing with five or six other side's for top 5. It's about getting into position, and anything happens over a game. Ask Toronto.

Would Gelling improve the squad and help us get there?

Yes I would argue.

Would he give us an edge in big games?

Again I would argue yes.

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Re: Widnes : Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:11 am  

I reckon bigger fish than us will be in touch with Gelling.

A lot depends on if they actually do go into Admin. If they do the administrator will need to cut losses so that's sacking of surplus staff. It could mean cutting of non surplus staff too as Mick Potter found out. Players will most probably be told that if they can get deals elsewhere then they should. Overseas players will probably get a dispensation to be off quota as Sammut did when he left us. I expect Gelling to end up at Cas or Catalans if there's no imminent buyer for Widnes.

Re: Widnes : Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:51 am  

Bulls4Champs wrote:

It's right for us to bring in players that improve the squad. If he can come at the right price then we absolutely should raid them.

They don't have to be admin either. If they need money or need to reduce costs then it's simple economics.

Id love Tangata, Leuluai or Cahill

Re: Widnes : Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:56 am  

We'd have to offload a centre ourselves if we brought Gelling in - I can't see it happening.