Re: Kear Out : Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:53 pm  

Scarey71 wrote:

I always find Fleming infuriating. He's like Chris Feather, with his size you'd expect more impact but he seems to stop a metre before contact.

There is a reason he has had so many clubs. He is one player who even since he were a youngster at his community club, he has been signed simply because of his size and coaches thinking they can get something out of him.

Re: Kear Out : Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:23 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Agreed. We field that kick-off, complete the set, put in a reasonable kick & chase, Sheffield start their set 80/70 metres from their try line, the forwards have to get back. Instead we messed up the kick-off and Sheffield start the set 40/30metres from out try line. That instantly gives them energy and drains ours.

We can be as fit as we want, but fitness can be in the head too. You feel more tired if you have to jog back to your own 20m line to start your set 80metres away with 10 mins left. If you start 40metres after the opposition made an error, you feel less tired.

That's why I think its an attitude issue rather than fitness. We don't bite down on the gum shield and complete those tough crucial sets. We consistently mess up and put pressure on ourselves and give the opposition a lift.

Whatever the reasons, it is undoubtedly now John Kear's team albeit on a budget. There needs to be some significant signs of progress in the next couple of months. At the moment it feels like the players change but the same problems persist, so the blame lies with the coaching staff whether it's preparation, tactics or recruitment.

[Bullseye]

Re: Kear Out : Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:56 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

At the moment it feels like the players change but the same problems persist, so the blame lies with the coaching staff whether it's preparation, tactics or recruitment.

We'll find out in the coming weeks if last weekend's result was an aberration or exactly this.

Thinking about it in context Kear did ok with the 2019 side and if that hadn't been broken up we could've been more genuine contenders by now. As it was 2021 was almost another rebuild. That's not to downplay the way it ended. The key now is to see in the coming weeks whether that poor form at the end of last year was a trend that's continuing now or not.

Re: Kear Out : Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:35 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

We'll find out in the coming weeks if last weekend's result was an aberration or exactly this.

Thinking about it in context Kear did ok with the 2019 side and if that hadn't been broken up we could've been more genuine contenders by now. As it was 2021 was almost another rebuild. That's not to downplay the way it ended. The key now is to see in the coming weeks whether that poor form at the end of last year was a trend that's continuing now or not.

Problem for me last season was the players leaving seemed to give up once guaranteed playoffs
Brown,Hallas,Oakes especially all poor in last 4 defeats.

Re: Kear Out : Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:37 pm  

Part of me thinks peoples frustration with John is down to other clubs progressing.

We had our highest placed finish in six years last year; and we’re 40 mins from 3rd place.

That would’ve been essentially ‘top’ of the best of the rest. Surely he deserves the year, if results improve?

Re: Kear Out : Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:46 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

We'll find out in the coming weeks if last weekend's result was an aberration or exactly this.

Thinking about it in context Kear did ok with the 2019 side and if that hadn't been broken up we could've been more genuine contenders by now. As it was 2021 was almost another rebuild. That's not to downplay the way it ended. The key now is to see in the coming weeks whether that poor form at the end of last year was a trend that's continuing now or not.

That was the year he got rid of Dane Chisholm for being exciting.

Re: Kear Out : Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:50 pm  

Molsk111 wrote:

Only one person bradford need to put in is Leon he certainly knows his stuff

Its bad... but not that bad!!!

Re: Kear Out : Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:06 pm  

BullPen wrote:

The ‘fitness’ argument is interesting.

Having spent years in sport and formerly at a club who is now a fellow Champ club, I find the argument lazy.

In football, if you have to do more defending and work without the ball you tire quicker.
In rugby, it’s exactly the same if not worse due to the impacts on bodies.

Thackeray kicked us to death and we defended far more than we should’ve. We need to respect the ball, remain disciplined and build pressure.

Crossley and walker are never going to be size zero, but how can you say the team are unfit?

They lacked desire, not energy.

Fitness a lazy argument? Yes and no I would suggest.

For most of the squad I don't think general fitness is an issue, but being able to maintain a high quality performance whilst fatigued is. When we get tired we drop balls, drop off tackles and give stupid penalties away which then compound the problems. Other teams are simply better conditioned to be able to deal with fatigue than we are, and that comes down to the training.

Kear can say its a lack of attitude and disrespectful of the opposition all he wants, but the buck lays firmly on him I'm afraid. Its his tactics and his training methods that put the players into that position.

Chisholm called it out and got the boot. Others have tried and failed too.

Re: Kear Out : Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:49 pm  

I don’t watch enough RL closely enough these days to know who would be a good replacement.

We’re in the difficult position of being stuck behind a different top 2 who each year have a bigger budget than us. Without this changing, it’s a big ask for any coach to come in and make real progress. Looking at last years table, there wasn’t much difference between 3rd and 5th.

I guess it depends on whether a new coach finishing 3rd is seen as progress (and will that still be the case if 3rd is maintained?)

I don’t think there’s anything to be gained by sacking Kear mid season (and to suggest it after 2 games is utterly ridiculous). If we are in the position of appointing a new coach, I’d rather plan for it and have a pre-season to properly prepare.

Re: Kear Out : Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:55 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

We'll find out in the coming weeks if last weekend's result was an aberration or exactly this.

Thinking about it in context Kear did ok with the 2019 side and if that hadn't been broken up we could've been more genuine contenders by now. As it was 2021 was almost another rebuild. That's not to downplay the way it ended. The key now is to see in the coming weeks whether that poor form at the end of last year was a trend that's continuing now or not.

Indeed but it doesn’t bode well. I would have thought the preparation would have included some mention of the absolute tonking they gave us last year. Perhaps the conditions spared us a similar fate on home soil.