Re: York away : Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:36 pm  

Genuine question for anyone on here who's up to speed with the ever changing rules of RL (impartiality please):

Should York's first try have stood?

Hingano plays the ball as near as dammit on the Bradford line and dummy half Jubb dives (at least partially) through Hingano's legs to score. Surely Jubb could be said to use Ata's body as a shield to obstruct the try line defence?

All answers welcome (bar CD's)!

Sorry, first things second, congrats on the massive win last night.

[Bullseye]

Re: York away : Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:38 pm  

Highlander wrote:

Just remember “it’s not the same if you’re not at the game…..!”

[Bullseye]

Re: York away : Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:39 pm  

Bent&Bongser wrote:

Genuine question for anyone on here who's up to speed with the ever changing rules of RL (impartiality please):

Should York's first try have stood?

Hingano plays the ball as near as dammit on the Bradford line and dummy half Jubb dives (at least partially) through Hingano's legs to score. Surely Jubb could be said to use Ata's body as a shield to obstruct the try line defence?

All answers welcome (bar CD's)!

Sorry, first things second, congrats on the massive win last night.

Pretty sure you can't dive through the middle of the ruck but I'm not 100% sure.

Re: York away : Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:09 pm  

Bent&Bongser wrote:

Genuine question for anyone on here who's up to speed with the ever changing rules of RL (impartiality please):

Should York's first try have stood?

Hingano plays the ball as near as dammit on the Bradford line and dummy half Jubb dives (at least partially) through Hingano's legs to score. Surely Jubb could be said to use Ata's body as a shield to obstruct the try line defence?

All answers welcome (bar CD's)!

Sorry, first things second, congrats on the massive win last night.

No and he didn’t play the ball correctly either. But we didn’t play the ball correctly for Lawford’s try so won’t be complaining.

There was a forward pass in the build up to their try before half time and we had a perfectly good try chalked off too. Plus Pauli Pauli should have been a straight red. Right now though it doesn’t matter.

Re: York away : Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:24 pm  

Neither PTB would have passed muster back in the day but in this day and age as long as the tackled player has previously got back onto two feet, the "ball playing" foot doesn't seem to need to touch the ball. If anything, Hingano's foot might have touched it - just!

Regarding the "forward" pass, this blasted momentum rule seems to have really muddied the waters. Who the heck knows anymore? Back on the 1st of April (of all days), Leigh nilled Dewsbury by 44 with the visitors having a sole score chalked off for a forward pass. Bongser was sitting next to Charlie Caroli, virtually square on to the pass, and we both thought that the try should have stood - and a good one it would have been too.

Only seen the highlights and therefore can't comment on Walker's disallowed effort or on Pauli x2.

Onward to 'Haven at home.

[Bullseye]

Re: York away : Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:14 am  

Forward passes are always a problem for refs to rule on as angles can be very deceptive and the ref may be looking at them from the front or rear so is relying on the touch judge who may also be unsighted.

So long as the ball comes out of the hands sideways or backwards it doesn't matter if the player catching it is in front of the passer - that's basically how I see it. There used to be a well known try that illustrates this perfectly (well it does for old fogeys that remember it) - Joe Lydon scoring for GB against the Kiwis in 1985. It's one of the all time classics. Hanley makes a break down the touchline, throws a hopeful ball inside and Lydon catches it in front of where Hanley passed.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: York away : Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:42 am  

Rugby Union appears to remain extremely generous about forward passes even at international level. Every time I watch a union game I see tries scored that would be chalked off in League. Ironically for a sport clogged in rules, their mentality is that if its there or there abouts, let the game flow.

[Bullseye]

Re: York away : Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:19 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

Rugby Union appears to remain extremely generous about forward passes even at international level. Every time I watch a union game I see tries scored that would be chalked off in League. Ironically for a sport clogged in rules, their mentality is that if its there or there abouts, let the game flow.

The passing movement that led to the famous Gareth Edwards try for the Barbarians vs the All Blacks in 1973 included a pass that went about 3m forward but nobody mentions it. Fair enough. RL fans in particular will always find fault no matter what.

Re: York away : Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:44 pm  

Going back some (all too many) years also, Bongser was at his college halls of residence and watching a Five Nations (as it was then) game involving Scotland (probably vs England) and the Scots captain Gavin Hastings loosed (literally) a pass from within the 22m line that was caught well beyond it. The resulting try was shown several times with praise from Nigel Starmer-Smith - never a word against the officiating. Think it's drummed into these RU silver spooners from an early age that, should they dare to do that, Nanny will come round and spank them AND NOT IN A NICE WAY!

Re: York away : Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:50 am  

Pauli Pauli 1 match ban. It doesn't affect us and I known disciplinary is very hard to get consistency, but considering most neutrals were saying it was a straight red, how they've come up with a 1 game ban beggars belief.