Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:49 pm  

Bravo. Now, a competition, no prizes, just a bit of fun to calm tempers.
Question 1
Can you identify this bird?

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:56 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

The 'me and him', ad hominem stuff, just becomes acrimonious and leads to threads being locked, which none of us want.

Crikey, you are even using his phrases now. Dear me.

BTW, the reason I have an issue with Adey is because of his attitude and his pompous way. He thinks he is superior to everyone else and when he gets told about it he goes off in a huff.

If he is not prepared to play by the rules then he should just sod off. Similarly, if he was stopped from doing so by some of the admin then it would not be allowed to continue.

That is all, I have said my piece. He has shown himself up on here as the hypocrite he is anyway.

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:02 pm  

Mirfieldbull wrote:

The system for 2015 is so stacked against the top 4 from SL2, you also have to be a better team than the worst 4 in SL1, who coincidentally, can pay players substantially more than you're allowed to and employ more overseas players. Well we come back stronger, personally don't see how it can happen over 7 games.

You don't have to be better than 4 worst teams in SL1 though. Top 3 after mini league are guaranteed SL1. 4th then plays 5th for last spot in a one off game. So in theory you only have to be 5th best out of that group of 8 then win a one off game against a team that finished one place higher than you. still stacked against SL2 teams but not as hopeless as some are making out.

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:11 pm  

yes, knowing our luck we would get 4th then lose the playoff.

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:39 pm  

mat wrote:

You don't have to be better than 4 worst teams in SL1 though. Top 3 after mini league are guaranteed SL1. 4th then plays 5th for last spot in a one off game. So in theory you only have to be 5th best out of that group of 8 then win a one off game against a team that finished one place higher than you. still stacked against SL2 teams but not as hopeless as some are making out.

Ok, hadn't grasped that, cheers. Not as bleak as I feared, but still challenging unless a team is like London and implodes. But, as I said in earlier comment, going into admin and coming out in a per pack becomes even more attractive, retain the players screw the creditors but stay in top flight!

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:41 pm  

Question 2:

Identify the following;

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:53 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

At the same time as you show me any public documentation to demonstrate anything different to what I said.

I can't and neither can you and that's the point

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:03 pm  

vastman wrote:

I can't and neither can you and that's the point

Technically, isn't that two points?

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:46 pm  

What I don't get is why Adeybull seems to have the view everyone on here is answerable to him? You are all just fans and the likelyhood of ever getting the full picture is virtually zero. The only people that will have anywhere near the full facts and the current owners and the independant board.

Adey have you contacted the current owner for discussions as I am sure together you could clear up some grey areas to your satisfaction. Repeatedly asking the same question to fans on a forum will not give you answers and the view that if they can't be answered byt fans means something is fishy doesn't add up.

Saying if it should be 4 or 6 isn't relivant the case was for all or nothing, if they has said they had paid of some of the creditors or appealed it should have been 4 not 6 I would have understood this being discussed.

Still points to be had this year and if that isn't acheivable get your youngsters signed up an start looking at Leighs business model. Stop wasting energy on chasing shadows.

[Bulliac]

Re: Points deduction upheld : Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:18 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Crikey, you are even using his phrases now. Dear me.

BTW, the reason I have an issue with Adey is because of his attitude and his pompous way. He thinks he is superior to everyone else and when he gets told about it he goes off in a huff.

If he is not prepared to play by the rules then he should just sod off. Similarly, if he was stopped from doing so by some of the admin then it would not be allowed to continue.

That is all, I have said my piece. He has shown himself up on here as the hypocrite he is anyway.

Ha, sorry about the latin, mea culpa.

No-one on here wrote it though, or has usage rights. After all, there are a few latin phrases in [fairly] common usage in English. It is also true that there are no special cases and all on here are pari passu, so you see, it was just a gentle caveat about the way ad hominem stuff was leading, though sadly, I suspect that alea iacta est....