Re: carvell : Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:42 pm  

I'm over losing Carvell, particularly if we can secure Evans in the short term whilst potentially looking to recruit somebody else from Oz/NZ if funds permit.

Keeping hold of Gale is a must now though, our whole pre season will have been geared around him as our chief playmaker. We simply don't have the strength in depth to lose him at this late stage.

Can't help notice that the fantastic news about Sidlow re-signing has been forgotten in all this speculation regarding Carvell and our ownership. He has looked impressive in pre season and I was surprised by just how big an impact he made last year before his injury. Nice to see him showing some loyalty to the club, coach and supporters despite it not being the easiest period for us.

Re: carvell : Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:42 pm  

Ross from the T & A with an update of sorts:

Garreth Carvell linked up with the Hull squad today but Bulls CEO Robbie Hunter-Paul said "Garreth Carvell is contracted to the Bradford Bulls and that contract is registered with the RFL."

Re: carvell : Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:10 pm  

roger daly wrote:

I take it the special schools in Hull finish about 3.00pm

He does have a very valid point.

Re: carvell : Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:47 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

RP you really are an expect in Rugby, you can tell what a coach is going to be like, before he has even coached a competitive game.

There has been uproar on your forum regarding your performances in pre season, yes, even before a competitive game. His only head coaching job was at East Hull, learned his trade under Gentle and Agar, who lets be honest are pretty damn poor and strong rumours both coaches couldn't deal with player power. Already slating his squad in the press! why don't you tell me the positives of his appointment?

Of course you can have a fair an educated guess at how coaches/players will perform.

Re: carvell : Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:02 pm  

Rupert Pupkin wrote:

There has been uproar on your forum regarding your performances in pre season, yes, even before a competitive game. His only head coaching job was at East Hull, learned his trade under Gentle and Agar, who lets be honest are pretty damn poor and strong rumours both coaches couldn't deal with player power. Already slating his squad in the press! why don't you tell me the positives of his appointment?

Of course you can have a fair an educated guess at how coaches/players will perform.

Like you have no idea how he will go, so I don't make myself look stupid with silly predictions

To judge a coach on pre season is ridiculous.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: carvell : Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:20 pm  

Right Bulls fans let's get over on the fc and rovers boards for a tear up with wakey fans. Who's up for it?

Re: carvell : Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:20 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Like you have no idea how he will go, so I don't make myself look stupid with silly predictions

To judge a coach on pre season is ridiculous.

Fair enough, I predict he will be useless. It might make me look stupid and clueless but that's how I think he will go. I will look forward to been ridiculed in years to come when he has taken FC into been one of the biggest clubs in the land. Get Mrs B to put it in her long list of quotes!

Re: carvell : Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:25 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

Right Bulls fans let's get over on the fc and rovers boards for a tear up with wakey fans. Who's up for it?

Sorry, back on topic, strange situation with Carvell, at hull today having a fitness test when your club are claiming he is under contract.

I reckon we might offer you a small fee to get this sorted and everyone can maybe move on.

BTW, what is tupe? I have no idea?

Re: carvell : Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:28 pm  

dddooommm wrote:

Ross from the T & A with an update of sorts:

So on basis Carvell is almost certain to go, what about Evans and Mason as replacements, should be able to get for same money paying Carvell and adds depth to the squad. Not ideal, but at this stage, take what's available and we need numbers and size!

Re: carvell : Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:35 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Sorry, back on topic, strange situation with Carvell, at hull today having a fitness test when your club are claiming he is under contract.

I reckon we might offer you a small fee to get this sorted and everyone can maybe move on.

BTW, what is tupe? I have no idea?

TUPE is transfer of contracts when an organization takes on the work previously carried out by another company, so protecting employees from losing their jobs when organizations take on work previously carried out by another. The argument is Carvell's contract TUPE transferred to new owners from OK Bulls. As an employee, Carvell had the right to refuse the TUPE transfer but needed to do it on day 1. If he did that he was free to look for employment elsewhere. This is exactly what Kopczak did. By the fact this case is still rumbling on 1 week later, my guess is that Carvell and his advisers didn't cover their backsides properly.