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Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:25 pm  
I'm no fan of the pie muncher, but that's possibly unfairly down to my belief that his appearance does nothing to counter the thick northern stereotype attached to the game. I am also not a fan at all of P&R. I do remember lots of posters saying that our game was dying as a result of the lack of it, however. To suggest that one person is responsible for coming up with the idea & managing to brainwash all chairmen to accept it is ridiculous. Who are all the number of chairmen asking questions about the suitability of the hierachy who are trusted with the games creditability at many levels?
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Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:29 pm  
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To suggest that one person is responsible for coming up with the idea & managing to brainwash all chairmen to accept it is ridiculous. Who are all the number of chairmen asking questions about the suitability of the hierachy who are trusted with the games creditability at many levels?


This is no place for that sort of reasonable comment.
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Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:02 pm  
The thing about P&R is that someone hast be promoted and someone has to be relegated and this new system does not seem to guarantee it.
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Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:14 pm  
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I'm no fan of the pie muncher, but that's possibly unfairly down to my belief that his appearance does nothing to counter the thick northern stereotype attached to the game. I am also not a fan at all of P&R. I do remember lots of posters saying that our game was dying as a result of the lack of it, however. To suggest that one person is responsible for coming up with the idea & managing to brainwash all chairmen to accept it is ridiculous. Who are all the number of chairmen asking questions about the suitability of the hierachy who are trusted with the games creditability at many levels?


Perhaps you should have followed the policy review document, and the rebel clubs walk out. Plus the Salford chairman and criticism of many decisions, Coupled with the worse attendance figures ever? What is your assessment, I remain to be convinced that the head of any organisation isn't responsible as it is understood in all businesses the "Buck Stops here"
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Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:41 pm  
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Perhaps you should have followed the policy review document, and the rebel clubs walk out. Plus the Salford chairman and criticism of many decisions, Coupled with the worse attendance figures ever? What is your assessment, I remain to be convinced that the head of any organisation isn't responsible as it is understood in all businesses the "Buck Stops here"

Another urban myth. In the Bulls' case, how I wish the most recent buck had stopped with the owner. The reality is our new club is saddled with a skipful of bucks from previous incarnations, and the weight has eventually sunk us.
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Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:49 pm  
Yeah, really poor form for Green to be told about the debts, only AFTER he had bought the club.
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Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:04 am  
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Yeah, really poor form for Green to be told about the debts, only AFTER he had bought the club.


I don't know how stupid you actually are, though the condition is clearly deep, but tbf Green did not buy any debts. That was kinda the point of buying from an administrator. Ask your dad. He might also explain to you what I was talking about, as you clearly have no fscking idea, though good luck to him with that, ya can't educate wood.
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Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:29 am  
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Perhaps you should have followed the policy review document, and the rebel clubs walk out. Plus the Salford chairman and criticism of many decisions, Coupled with the worse attendance figures ever? What is your assessment, I remain to be convinced that the head of any organisation isn't responsible as it is understood in all businesses the "Buck Stops here"


It wouldn’t be a policy if it hadn’t been discussed & agreed by the majority, as much as I dislike the idea. We all know Koukash isn’t happy because he can’t buy his team instant success, but I asked you to name the number of chairmen asking questions about the suitability of the hierachy

Anyway some of the SL clubs walked out in protest over plans to allocate more funds to Championship clubs, rather than over the structure, as I remember it. Another anyway, it was Barwick who ran the meeting to agree the structures with the clubs, it was the RL that ratified it. Another another anyway, I thought it was all Hetherington's plan for world domination.
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Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:58 am  
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It wouldn’t be a policy if it hadn’t been discussed & agreed by the majority, as much as I dislike the idea. We all know Koukash isn’t happy because he can’t buy his team instant success, but I asked you to name the number of chairmen asking questions about the suitability of the hierachy

Anyway some of the SL clubs walked out in protest over plans to allocate more funds to Championship clubs, rather than over the structure, as I remember it. Another anyway, it was Barwick who ran the meeting to agree the structures with the clubs, it was the RL that ratified it. Another another anyway, I thought it was all Hetherington's plan for world domination.


There were a number of the club chairmen who were totally at odds to the proposals, I was told by a club chairman, who I will not name as it is not my place to do so. What I do know is it wasn't anything to do with allocation of funds as this wasn't even decided at that stage.
However I don't pretend to know it chapter and verse..who could?

I do not know the number and if I did, I would leave it with them to come out and say it, it is not up to me!
I only know what I've read and pieced together over the 2 years of the debacle at the Bulls, true I have spoken to chairmen and journalists who have expressed their dislike at the way it's going in RL. Such is the cons in the "pros and cons" situation that this is the conclusion I have come to, as have many fans, otherwise the attendance figures for SL and the current championship would be less than dire?
My case rests, people will believe what they want to, and between that is the truth of the situation, I sincerely wish I felt I was wrong???
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Re: Marc Green statement / Appeal : Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:02 am  
tigertot wrote:
To suggest that one person is responsible for coming up with the idea & managing to brainwash all chairmen to accept it is ridiculous. Who are all the number of chairmen asking questions about the suitability of the hierachy who are trusted with the games creditability at many levels?


Lard Butt of Halifax got the job by default - he waited for a better man to leave then took control.

The only way to ensure you look good now is to hire people less able than yourself - thats what he has done.

So you are correct - there is more than one person making a right mess of the game.

There is little chance you will get an answer to the number of chairmen as most of us are just fans and can only guess.

I work in an organisation where the management are clueless, don't communicate and don't listen. It's crap.
The club chairmen are in a similar position - so they may well be hacked off too.

If they could stop falling out between themselves and pull in the same direction - we could see some changes - but won't be holding my breath on that one.
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