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Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:24 pm  
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The solution of the RFL making Odsal the Wembley of the North, playing all finals there and moving HQ, actually has some substance IMHO


With a multistorey car park and train station (prefererably linked to the fabled HS2) built on the site of Richard Dunne's and a "Wembley Way" linking across Rooley lane into the stadium. Jobs a good 'un :)
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Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:33 pm  
Why all the hate for people who use the ''cut cloth accordingly'' line? I get that it's overused and tiresome, but is it not the reason bradford are once again in a mess? Because of not cutting the cloth accordingly? (dives for cover)

Is the badford club a viable entity in it's current guise? Because different people keep taking over and it's the same result every time.
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Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:49 pm  
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... who is to say the fans will not buy in the fans need to consider if they support the club through think and thin or are just in it for the glory. ...


Well, anyone who thinks about it for a moment will say that the fans will not buy in.

You sound just like any idiot chairman, pontificating to the fans what they need to do if they are "true supporters". You forget that this is the 21st century and people apart from a (variable but small) hardcore couldn't give a flying fart about pleas and entreaties or appeals to their conscience.

Your post reminds me of the trolls who were on here back in the day when we'd get a 20K+ crowd claiming we were all "gloryhunters". It was bollox then and it is now, the crowd was just people who thought it was worth paying the admission, if yes, they paid, and if no, they don't. You can call them gloryhunters, or wildebeest, or pomegranates, it makes no difference. They pay if they want, they don't fancy it, they keep their money in their pocket.

In 21c terms the Bulls have a relatively big potential fanbase (as has been proved) but they will only come and pay if they choose to. Not if someone gives 'ema jolly good tickng off. Not if someone appeals to their conscience. Only about 3000 or so have even been interested in "relatively thin", and if we fall even further from grace into C1 then that number will at least halve. If we start from scratch it may be even worse.

I am almost as hardcore Northern/Bulls as they come so I can offer you an insight. At the moment I will take some persuading. If my club is effectively dead then I have no appetite for some back-street part-time semi-amateur operation, even if masquerading under our proud name. there are plenty of existing clubs in the area that do just that and i can get my fix of grass roots there.

Secondly, as I have been saying for a long time, if the Bulls fall to the bottom - as may be favourite now, unless Santa is real - there will be no way back for The Club Formerly Known As Bradford. We had a brief window to try to regain SL but failed. If you think any club can start from scratch and aim for SL without a wealthy backer then you really are in dreamland.

And, no club that cuts its proverbial cloth will ever succeed. There is always a prerequisite of a wealthy backer to push things along. Those who think you can make a club run as a business and be at the top, self-sustaining, are equally deluded.

The point which clothcutters somehow miss is that the fans will never settle for just the cloth you have. In order to progress, you need to buy in much moire cloth than you have. We did, last year and this. If it had worked, then we'd get the return of SL and so would remain for the time being solvent but then you have created a whole new cloth requirement and won't succeed in SL without funding yet more cloth acquisition.

If you fail, though, that's the problem. WE COULD NEVER have got to SL clothcutting, we set our stall out, and effectively bet the ranch. To get to SL you have to pay more than can possibly be justified for a Championship side. You can't guarantee promotion though, but you CAN guarantee that if you cut your cloth based on where you are, then you can forget all about that chance of promotion. THAT is the is the very simple and inescapable fact.
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Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:52 pm  
Anything is viable with enough cloth.

Omar Khan for instance found he'd been given a suit to make with only enough cloth for a thong because the other SL clubs had voted to take his cloth away and used it for cravats for themselves.
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Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:56 pm  
If we do get saved and a new decent owner is appointed I would be chuffed. I think we could stand a 6-12 point reduction in this league and avoid relegation. It does seem unfair that the reduction is only punishing the new owners, players and long suffering staff but if that's the rule, so be it. Whilst dealing out these deductions and fines I think the RFL must take some responsibility for the approval of past owners, Khan, Green and all who have all shown not to be the appropriate people to own and run the club even though sanctioned by the RFL.
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Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:59 pm  
I don't understand why people lump in Omar Khan with the rest, he saved the club, and he didn't bankrupt it. As well as losing at least £1m of his own cash, for all our benefit. He doesn't deserve the slagging he gets.
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Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:04 pm  
I think hindsight shows he should never have taken the deal offered by the RFL.

That said there was a lot of mistakes during his tenure. Some of his staff left a bit to be desired to put it mildly. Choosing my words carefully.
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Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:07 pm  
And it gets worse.

Whilst doing a stocktake, the administrators came across two bags of loose leaf tea which the tealady had secreted inside the old tea urn left a secret hidey hole in the Southbank stand. They are now using said tea to make cuppas for themselves - no wonder they are in no sodding hurry!
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Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:37 pm  
The only good thing about beleaguered Bradford's demise is that it may help to raise employment levels in the cloth cutting sector.

As long as there are plans in place to make sure the requisite amount of cloth is going to be cut.

Cloth cutting.
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Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:47 pm  
Its sad to see the many jobs lost in the cloth cutting industry just due to the huge amount of cloth cutting that Bradford Bulls have done in the past 5 years which has swamped and then completely depressed the market. And their fans.
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