: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:21 pm  

Trimalchio wrote:

...everyone is on McNamara's back.

Not quite everyone.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:50 pm  

martin @ bulls wrote:

Tony Smith, Ian Millaward, John Lang, Graeme Murray, John Monie, Stuart Raper, Ellery Hanley. There are tons of good coaches that are available and tons that would make themselves available if the Bulls job was to become free.

Maybe tons of coaches but it is about the team.

Take us (Wigan) we have a good coach in Nobby who since he has left Bradford won nothing because you had a good team

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:58 pm  

Trimalchio wrote:

surely you have to give him more time given the disjointed start to the season.

but people were saying exactly the same when I raised the issue at the start of last season and we are worse off now when we were then.

Where exactly do you draw a line in the sand?

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:27 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

but people were saying exactly the same when I raised the issue at the start of last season and we are worse off now when we were then.

Where exactly do you draw a line in the sand?

If McNamara was going to be sacked, it should have been done at the end of last season. Getting rid now would certainly be premature having only played two games and with the new faces needing time to gel.

After five games if the Bulls don't have a win it would be permissable to let McNamara go, but only in the case of there being no hope for improvement (i.e. big losses as opposed to narrow defeats). I don't know what precise conditions need to be met for him to go but Bradford aren't there ...yet.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:33 pm  

brian mcdermott for me!

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:43 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

but people were saying exactly the same when I raised the issue at the start of last season and we are worse off now when we were then.

Worse off? In your opinion. In fact, much is better about the team this year, the pack (though now Burgess out with ligaments to add to Langers and Solo) is the best in the SL. How much better than the best in SL do you actually want?

"The issue"? What issue? You did no such thing, you wee fibber! At the start of last season, you were lauding his signings etc. (I quoted you). All you could do was pathetically bluster about how sad you thought it was someone trawling your posts, to show you up. So give us a break.

mystic eddie wrote:

Where exactly do you draw a line in the sand?

Well, we sort of all did (even you). It was decided that at least 10 games was not unreasonable. I realise it is very windy in your ivory tower, so I can only presume the sand has blown away, but still.

[Bullseye]

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:38 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Where exactly do you draw a line in the sand?

Seriously I reckon 10 games in is a decent start. Even then we'd have to be pretty sure.

I don't think the club can afford to go paying people off willy nilly. There's no relegation this season so any change now would be too premature.

I can't say I'm happy how things have developed over the past 18 months but as I said if we see some youngsters come through and some improvement in existing players this season I'll be relatively happy.

If we're still struggling to score points, unable to defend around the ruck and refusing to bring through the kids by game 10 then I won't be as sympathetic.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:59 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Worse off? In your opinion. In fact, much is better about the team this year, the pack (though now Burgess out with ligaments to add to Langers and Solo) is the best in the SL. How much better than the best in SL do you actually want?

"The issue"? What issue? You did no such thing, you wee fibber! At the start of last season, you were lauding his signings etc. (I quoted you). All you could do was pathetically bluster about how sad you thought it was someone trawling your posts, to show you up. So give us a break.


Well, we sort of all did (even you). It was decided that at least 10 games was not unreasonable. I realise it is very windy in your ivory tower, so I can only presume the sand has blown away, but still.

and to think I wanted you back.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:04 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Worse off? In your opinion. In fact, much is better about the team this year, the pack (though now Burgess out with ligaments to add to Langers and Solo) is the best in the SL. How much better than the best in SL do you actually want? .

Shame the backs are one of the worst in the league then eh?

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

"The issue"? What issue? You did no such thing, you wee fibber!

So you are trying to say that I did not start a thread or ten about McNamara being a dud three games into last season?

Really?

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:57 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Seriously I reckon 10 games in is a decent start. Even then we'd have to be pretty sure.
I don't think the club can afford to go paying people off willy nilly. There's no relegation this season so any change now would be too premature.

I can't say I'm happy how things have developed over the past 18 months but as I said if we see some youngsters come through and some improvement in existing players this season I'll be relatively happy.

If we're still struggling to score points, unable to defend around the ruck and refusing to bring through the kids by game 10 then I won't be as sympathetic.

Why wait till 10 games. Didn't we have these same discussions last year. Like let's wait till the new players have settled in then lets wait till June. Then it was once we have all our players back and have had pre-season we'll see the best of the team. A point a bloke who was stood near us at the Hull KR game said watching that game was like we hadn't had a break and it was still last season and he was right it hadn't felt like we had been away.