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Re: Scruton to Wakey? : Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:59 am  
Bets'y Bulls wrote:
On a different subject, assuming we can still sign loan players is there a limit to how many you can have at once??


Yes - unless you are London
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Re: Scruton to Wakey? : Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:01 am  
We beat London and Wakey lose to Wigan we're 2
Points behind. We have tough away game at hull (not impossible to get a win) Wakey have a massive game against cats who haven't won yet.

Need to try get Mullally for the season.
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Re: Scruton to Wakey? : Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:17 am  
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Wakefield are charmers aren't they.
Rugby league family my asre.

Regrettably it is clear that Rugby League is a dog eat dog world and Wakefield are no better and no worse than others.
Cast our minds back to the Hull friendly. Cummins had recruited a side that we all thought could compete. He's now seen the starting props go ( unless there's an amazing u turn ) , his mercurial half back depart, the new half back crocked after 81 minutes of the season and the new back rower and centre/ back rower yet to feature because of injury.
All the decisions on player movement have been taken completely outside his control for 2 reasons. Firstly the administrator is in control and it's Wilson's job to shed as much cost as he can as soon as he can .Never mind a transfer fee-- he'll be looking at reducing the wage bill).I'd guess that it was the administrator that put Scruton on the market not Wakefield making an approach.Secondly the RFL have put the club in special measures, which FC made absolutely clear worried him far more than the points deduction.
The longer this administration lingers , the more likely others will leave. A slow and painful death.
Let's be clear-- poor internal management is the cause of this crisis .
.BUt the RFL cannot and should not escape criticism
I'm sure Messrs Blake and Rimmer can point to this rule or that regulation and tell us they are doing everything by the book. BUT their sudden announcement that they would gainsay the administrators business decision and refuse to accept the transfer to BB 2014 , left the club in even deeper peril .
I really do hope that someone will eventually ask some direct questions of all parties as it appears totally incredible to me that ,given the quite proper and necessary close scrutiny and the regular meetings, Rimmer and Solly did not know the intentions of the BB Board and did not tell them that although they had been passed as fit and proper, their alleged solution for creditor payment was totally unacceptable. If it is established that they did tell that Board, it is just as incredible that the debenture holder continued to press for administration. I am prepared to accept that the question of a points deduction was aired but did they also warn about the special measures scenario?
As it stands they must know that as each asset disappears ( in this case our current player of the year) , the value of the Bulls reduces and the eventual settlement to creditors plummets. And the longer we are in limbo, the less credible the whole competition becomes withLondon and ourselves well behind the 8 ball.
Do Messrs Wood and Barwick intend to say anything?
I will not and cannot blame Scruton or Wakefield. I will decide whether to blame the 2014 board or the Rugby League executives OR BOTH when there is an accurate account of what happened . It's becoming an almost impossible position for FC the staff and the players -- FC in particular has continued the legacy of Mick Potter ,speaking and acting with immense integrity
We need an early resolution but everything I've witnessed makes me despair that it's likely.
Tomorrow I suggest the music played as the teams enter the field is "Always look on the Bright Side"-- for both sides.
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Re: Scruton to Wakey? : Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:24 am  
so with our team in special measures as stated by the RFL players can leave but Bradford can not replace them. So by the end of next week after we have lost 8 first team players to other clubs were F$^&Ked
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Re: Scruton to Wakey? : Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:31 am  
I don't like how the administrator can seemingly work weekends to sell players, but, talks with bidders have to wait until next week. Why do we have to let players go now, why not see where these so called talks with bidders go. By just waiting a couple of days we may be able to keep our best players.
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Re: Scruton to Wakey? : Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:31 am  
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so with our team in special measures as stated by the RFL players can leave but Bradford can not replace them. So by the end of next week after we have lost 8 first team players to other clubs were F$^&Ked


Who would pay the wages of these players you want to bring in?
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Re: Scruton to Wakey? : Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:35 am  
It's back to this duty of care point. How many players can leave before, because you can't bring anyone in, you are playing kids and it ceases to be safe.
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Re: Scruton to Wakey? : Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:00 am  
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It's back to this duty of care point. How many players can leave before, because you can't bring anyone in, you are playing kids and it ceases to be safe.


My safety limit would be a 23 man squad being rotated with loans
It seem obvious the administrator is getting the biggest wages off the payroll first so he can balance the books quicker,hopefully when that happens the special measure can be lifted
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Re: Scruton to Wakey? : Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:02 am  
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My safety limit would be a 23 man squad being rotated with loans
It seem obvious the administrator is getting the biggest wages off the payroll first so he can balance the books quicker,hopefully when that happens the special measure can be lifted


Think we probably have less than 23 fit players already.
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Re: Scruton to Wakey? : Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:22 am  
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Think we probably have less than 23 fit players already.


Sounds like you'll need to dip into the u19 for now.

Do you have players out at dewsbury?
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