Re: Almost 3 months in........ : Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:20 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

What do you expect him to do? I personally cannt even begin to imagine what state the club was in financially when he came. Even if we signed Kevin Locke we would still be in trouble. The heart and desire has completely gone from the team, doesn't matter what quality we have, if the desires gone, its pointless.

For me Marc Green is last person we should be blaming, don't forget the other consortium of Moore & Co had to make cut backs of £400k. We simply cannot afford to sign players who will get us out of this mess.

The only thing I would ask is Marc Green sack Cummins, the players we do have are so much better than this. Get a coach who will give them a rocket up their backsides and some fire in their bellies and we have half a chance every game.

Cummins should have gone while we still had a chance of surving.

Re: Almost 3 months in........ : Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:48 pm  

When are we mathematically down?

Re: Almost 3 months in........ : Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:16 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

What do you expect him to do? I personally cannt even begin to imagine what state the club was in financially when he came. Even if we signed Kevin Locke we would still be in trouble. The heart and desire has completely gone from the team, doesn't matter what quality we have, if the desires gone, its pointless.

For me Marc Green is last person we should be blaming, don't forget the other consortium of Moore & Co had to make cut backs of £400k. We simply cannot afford to sign players who will get us out of this mess.

The only thing I would ask is Marc Green sack Cummins, the players we do have are so much better than this. Get a coach who will give them a rocket up their backsides and some fire in their bellies and we have half a chance every game.

I expect he will do exactly what he's been doing for the last 3 months, i.e. very little.

It seems the plan was to wish really, really hard that we'd get all 6 points back and when that failed shrug your shoulders, put your feet up and wait for the parachute payment to come in.

Yes, the heart and desire has gone from the team, but it's been gone for a long while. The Wigan game was the point where we should have had a change of head coach. But apparently the "root and branch" investigation didn't see that.

Re: Almost 3 months in........ : Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:25 pm  

redeverready wrote:

Cummins should have gone while we still had a chance of surving.

After the Wigan game at Easter the deed should have been done. Whatever happened to Ferres promised root and branch review?

Re: Almost 3 months in........ : Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:45 pm  

bullsonfire wrote:

When are we mathematically down?

We are currently 8 points behind everyone else with a points difference of -210 (when compared with WTW) with 11 games remaining. There are 22 points available from those games. If we don't pick up points in one of the next 6 games we are mathematically down in my opinion. Our next 6 games are:

Hull KR H
Warrington A
Catalan H
Saints A
Giants A
Wigan H

Perform like we did today and we won't get anything out of those games.

Here's a horrible thought... Leeds could potentially relegate us from Super League on Friday 1st August.

Re: Almost 3 months in........ : Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:21 am  

dddooommm wrote:

Here's a horrible thought... Leeds could potentially relegate us from Super League on Friday 1st August.

Jeez. Rather at Leeds than at Wakefield though. If that's the case I expect a big Bulls turn out, a final show of defiance! I think if you've experienced the highest of the highs it's your duty to turn up for the final humiliation and the lowest of the lows; all part of the sporting experience!

Re: Almost 3 months in........ : Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:48 am  

FC - “There is other stuff going on as well and we looked like we had some players who were just way off."

Cummins ought to resign for the following reasons,
1, His rep is dropping like a stone due to a bunch of players who don't trust/believe in what he says. 24-0 after 15 mins is a white flag. Apparently we didn't need Langley and Sammutt but we did need Gaskell and Walker. Foster and Henry's defence would be exposed in the Championship. Some of his decisions have been very poor.

2, He will get another job as most reasonable people think he's not responsible for the state the club's in.

3, Whilst the club need a change of coach, I don't think the new regime have really supported him either. Loan deals and kids from New Zealand weren't ever going to be enough to turn the ship around.

Who knows what 'the other stuff' is but for the sake of his own career he needs to gather up his stuff and go.

Re: Almost 3 months in........ : Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:00 am  

"The other stuff" is worrying. As (from the same sentence) FC says it isn't anything to do with the points appeal. There's not much else off field stuff going on, so it must be dressing room.

Re: Almost 3 months in........ : Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:33 am  

"Other stuff" I would take to mean the players sorting their future careers.

Re: Almost 3 months in........ : Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:38 am  

redeverready wrote:

Cummins should have gone while we still had a chance of surving.

Correct, as I said last week. FC is now a dead man walking, for whatever reason his players have given up. He needs to go before we start planning next years 2nd tier team. We need to appoint the man we want in charge next season (not FC) asap so he can pick through the carcass and try to get a head start on next year. The only silver lining of being effectively relegated by June is we have some time to plan....Mr Green are you listening?