Re: Hunslet (H) : Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:47 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

I thought the maximum number of dual-reg players was five?

It's 4 dual reg and 1 loan. (Or combinations thereof. Not 5 dual reg, but I think 3 dual and 2 loan would be ok for example).

But Hunslet have got around it by "permanently" signing Luke Briscoe and James Duckworth. They have supposedly joined Hunslet on contracts, and have left Leeds. But if they're any good, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see them leave Hunslet and re-join Leeds on new permanent deals at the end of this season.
In the meantime, it allows them to play those two, as well as 4 more dual reg and 1 loan from Leeds.

Warrington did the same with Swinton a couple of seasons ago where a load of young Wire players joined Swinton permanently. And yet somehow still managed to get named in Wire's 19 occasionally. When quizzed about it, Wire said they'd taken them on loan from Swinton.

Doncaster were also quizzed this season about why they had 5 Dual Reg Hull players in the team. They then clarified by saying that Stuart Howarth was on a loan, not dual reg, so it was ok.

All a bit ridiculous.

Re: Hunslet (H) : Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:58 am  

HamsterChops wrote:

It's 4 dual reg and 1 loan. (Or combinations thereof. Not 5 dual reg, but I think 3 dual and 2 loan would be ok for example).

But Hunslet have got around it by "permanently" signing Luke Briscoe and James Duckworth. They have supposedly joined Hunslet on contracts, and have left Leeds. But if they're any good, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see them leave Hunslet and re-join Leeds on new permanent deals at the end of this season.
In the meantime, it allows them to play those two, as well as 4 more dual reg and 1 loan from Leeds.

Warrington did the same with Swinton a couple of seasons ago where a load of young Wire players joined Swinton permanently. And yet somehow still managed to get named in Wire's 19 occasionally. When quizzed about it, Wire said they'd taken them on loan from Swinton.

Doncaster were also quizzed this season about why they had 5 Dual Reg Hull players in the team. They then clarified by saying that Stuart Howarth was on a loan, not dual reg, so it was ok.

All a bit ridiculous.

It's like SL teams having a Reserve grade team at Championship level? A glaring addmission by Leeds was Delaney who would be allowed to rehabilitate after his surgery by playing for Hunslet, whilst obviously taking the place of a bona fide Hunslet forward!
It's a disgraceful situation brought about by the mishandling of our sport by the powers that be, (mentioning no names).

A lot of these problems have surfaced due to cutting SL teams to 12, with an obvious shrinkage, which has caused the surfeit of young talent being unable to play in the top flight, whilst ultimately doing the Championship a diservice when the developing talent in their ranks are sidelined by some of the proven players from SL.
An anology would be like say, Morrisons closing a couple of their Supermarkets to make their customers spend more, rather than attracting new customers by improving their services and the value to attract those customers???? You never can sell more by offering less.

[Bulliac]

Re: Hunslet (H) : Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:15 am  

HamsterChops wrote:

It's 4 dual reg and 1 loan. (Or combinations thereof. Not 5 dual reg, but I think 3 dual and 2 loan would be ok for example).

But Hunslet have got around it by "permanently" signing Luke Briscoe and James Duckworth. They have supposedly joined Hunslet on contracts, and have left Leeds. But if they're any good, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see them leave Hunslet and re-join Leeds on new permanent deals at the end of this season.
In the meantime, it allows them to play those two, as well as 4 more dual reg and 1 loan from Leeds.

Warrington did the same with Swinton a couple of seasons ago where a load of young Wire players joined Swinton permanently. And yet somehow still managed to get named in Wire's 19 occasionally. When quizzed about it, Wire said they'd taken them on loan from Swinton.

Doncaster were also quizzed this season about why they had 5 Dual Reg Hull players in the team. They then clarified by saying that Stuart Howarth was on a loan, not dual reg, so it was ok.

All a bit ridiculous.

I suppose it's fairly difficult for the RFL if two clubs deliberately circumvent the intent of the laws. It clearly offers an advantage to both clubs in that the SL club is losing an amount off the cap figure [I can't imagine the SL club would be so crass, and have sufficient 'brass neck', as to still pay part of their wages if they are on a genuine full championship contract??] and the Championship club gains someone they can't really afford. If the SL club has genuinely 'parted company' with the player one does have to wonder who is paying therm.

Re: Hunslet (H) : Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:39 pm  

Rarebreed wrote:

It's like SL teams having a Reserve grade team at Championship level? A glaring addmission by Leeds was Delaney who would be allowed to rehabilitate after his surgery by playing for Hunslet, whilst obviously taking the place of a bona fide Hunslet forward!
It's a disgraceful situation brought about by the mishandling of our sport by the powers that be, (mentioning no names).

A lot of these problems have surfaced due to cutting SL teams to 12, with an obvious shrinkage, which has caused the surfeit of young talent being unable to play in the top flight, whilst ultimately doing the Championship a diservice when the developing talent in their ranks are sidelined by some of the proven players from SL.
An anology would be like say, Morrisons closing a couple of their Supermarkets to make their customers spend more, rather than attracting new customers by improving their services and the value to attract those customers???? You never can sell more by offering less.

Problem surfaced before SL was cut to 12. The promising Warrington youngsters that Swinton had on DR a few seasons ago were called Briers and Morley!

Re: Hunslet (H) : Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:02 pm  

Looks like we're going to have a big screen set up at Odsal today on the closed Rooley Lane terracing.

[Bullseye]

Re: Hunslet (H) : Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:06 pm  

Decent win in the end. Thought we could have had more had we been more clinical. Hunslet barely got in our half but never gave up. I thought they competed better in the second half.

O'Brien's try from halfway was the standout for me, excellent. I though Shaw looked good apart from the missed tackle for the Hunslet try. Up front we dominated. Should be tougher at Batley next week.

Re: Hunslet (H) : Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:14 pm  

Jimmy will probably be annoyed we conceded a try, but at least it came from a breakaway rather than them actually breaking down a set defensive line. Some great work by Williams and Pitts to stop the initial break too.
Hopefully the injuries to Purtell and Mellor aren't too serious. Same for Uaisele too, although I'm not 100% sure of the reason for him dropping out.

Re: Hunslet (H) : Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:22 pm  

Solid win for us, a very professional job. As the weeks go by I'm more impressed with the job Tahroui does. Sidlow and Clough play long minutes but Tahroui is starting to offer longer stints too. I thought he'd be more of an impact prop but he puts in a lot of work too.

Re: Hunslet (H) : Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:34 pm  

We did seem to take our foot off the gas in the 2nd half and it took Hunslet scoring their try to shake us out of our apathy.

But we are looking a more cohesive unit each week, but we still need to work on our focus and put out a complete 80 minute performance.

[Bullseye]

Re: Hunslet (H) : Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:58 pm  

Mellor didn't look too good at all. On crutches and wearing a boot at the end. Shame. He's look v good so far.

Purtell just looked like he had tight hamstrings. He seemed to be walking freely at the end.

I agree about Samir. He's really coming on.