Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 am  

Quite a queue at my local scratter polling station this morning. Never seen it that busy before.

Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:24 am  

Highlander wrote:

The polls make for sad reading. Whilst Scotland & London are the strongest in the Remain camp, Yorkshire is the strongest for Leave

Maybe Yorkshire should vote itself out of the UK? We're 'undemocratically' governed by highly paid southerners hundreds of miles away, we export tons of bitter and whippets all around the world, and we were 7th in the total medal table in the last Olympics (should be be our own country). And I would imagine that these 'Londoners' are destroying our identity too, with their cafe Lattes and craft crisps.

While I completely disagree with the Yorkshire Brexiteers, i sort of admire the fact that they're thinking "Despite all the evidence I'm not letting those bloody southern jessies or Huropeens tell ME what to do!"

Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:25 am  

Highlander wrote:

The polls make for sad reading. Whilst Scotland & London are the strongest in the Remain camp, Yorkshire is the strongest for Leave

I voted for Pumpetypump. Alongside Ruth Davidson MSP, the only voice of reason I have heard in the EU debate.

As a sidenote, the BBC debate the other day got me thinking. Our Ruth (above), leader of the Scottish Conservatives, absolutely ripped apart the bumbling oaf that is Boris Johnson live on stage. Completely owned him.

Now, it is my opinion that Boris doesn't actually care about what way we go. He is merely standing against Cameron because he wants his job at Number 10. A vote to leave will surely lead to either Camerons' resignation, or, at the very least, lead to a campaign to oust him.

How can Boris have any credibility when he was completely dominated by another member of his party? Somebody who would be "below him" in the Tory hierarchy? And somebody who is actually a top-class politician rather than an upper-class English twit?

Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:26 am  

Fr13daY wrote:

While I completely disagree with the Yorkshire Brexiteers, i sort of admire the fact that they're thinking "Despite all the evidence I'm not letting those bloody southern jessies or Huropeens tell ME what to do!"

Nobody tells ME what to do.

Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:41 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

Nobody tells ME what to do.

Yes, I have got that impression from you.

Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:44 am  

Fr13daY wrote:

Maybe Yorkshire should vote itself out of the UK? We're 'undemocratically' governed by highly paid southerners hundreds of miles away, we export tons of bitter and whippets all around the world, and we were 7th in the total medal table in the last Olympics (should be be our own country). And I would imagine that these 'Londoners' are destroying our identity too, with their cafe Lattes and craft crisps.

While I completely disagree with the Yorkshire Brexiteers, i sort of admire the fact that they're thinking "Despite all the evidence I'm not letting those bloody southern jessies or Huropeens tell ME what to do!"

That's the real irony of this for me. I believe in local democracy, not being dictated to by a nasty, spiteful metropolitan Eton elite with no affinity for my class or my area. Germany seems to manage on a federal model with legislative powers resting with the individual states unless specifically specified. But it is recognised that there are issues of national, & international, impact that can only reasonably be agreed at that level. I am a very proud Yorkshireman despite being apparently surrounded by a bunch of paranoid xenophobes with a patronising & ignorant opinion of forriners, & a profound ignorance of the EU.

Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:09 am  

tigertot wrote:

That's the real irony of this for me. I believe in local democracy, not being dictated to by a nasty, spiteful metropolitan Eton elite with no affinity for my class or my area. Germany seems to manage on a federal model with legislative powers resting with the individual states unless specifically specified. But it is recognised that there are issues of national, & international, impact that can only reasonably be agreed at that level. I am a very proud Yorkshireman despite being apparently surrounded by a bunch of paranoid xenophobes with a patronising & ignorant opinion of forriners, & a profound ignorance of the EU.

Alas I fear many people are voting Brexit out of political disenchantment, partially caused by such a negative campaign by both sides no doubt. But shooting yourself in the foot because you don't like your socks seems a daft thing to do to me.

Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:15 am  

I actually had this conversation with a couple of Leythers at the Blackpool weekend. Their sole reason for leaving the EU was their fear of the EU destroying their identity. They almost believed that one night a crack EU commando unit would sneak into their bedroom and staple a beret to their head and demand they eat pain-au-chocolat.

I tried to point out that Yorkshire had been part of an Union (the United Kingdon) for a millennia, governed by a political elite hundreds of miles away, and yet I am still a Yorkshireman.

Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:18 am  

To be fair to them, I still have no idea where Leigh actually is.

In conversation with colleagues I now have a slightly refined preferred outcome. Within England, a very narrow margin of victory for Leave. Scots and Welsh to keep us in.

Hilarity ensues.

Re: OT - In/Out : Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:54 am  

That would be hilarious. Total meltdown. Might even trigger a general election....