Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 4:07 pm  

Nothus wrote:

The article in the guardian mentions that some of the individuals making the claims are being represented by the same solicitor that is dealing with the Cas/Denny Solomona case.
Those muppets on twitter might not realise the difference but I'm pretty sure that solicitor knows what's up.

The only thing I can think of that might drag the newco into this is whether there was any tupe stuff going on between the two companies. We all thought BBN Ltd was liquidated but that doesn't appear to be the case, so who knows.

I would have thought the only TUPEing to be going on was when Thorne promised to sign everyone on their current deals at that meeting. It does leave a sense of what could have been had he been given the club

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 4:12 pm  

Oh great. Meanwhile the administrator who told the staff to carry on trading while he earnt £210 per hour according to his report, and Marc Green who signed all the bloody players to the contracts won't have to pay a penny.

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 4:13 pm  

Nelson wrote: Further to my last post regarding TUPE . The extract below from ACAS seems to confirm that Bulls newco are potentially liable as they fit as having taken over all the relevant bullet points. Business transfers The TUPE regulations apply if a business or part of a business moves to a new owner or merges with another business to make a brand new employer. A part of a business might for example be a distribution function of a larger organisation. Under the TUPE regulations, a business is not judged by its name but by the use made of its assets such as the: * premises *  equipment * work in progress *  goodwill (such as the value of a brand name or a customer base) * intellectual property * employees. http://m.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/j/p/Hand ... -Guide.pdf It mentions using assts not having bought them, and there wasn't any goodwill at that point!!! Also there was no business as a going concern, so it couldn't move! The ACAS guidance doesn't cover a business setting up from new, which new co did, when the previous business ceased to exist. We know that because big Nige and Ralph told us

Nelson wrote: Further to my last post regarding TUPE . The extract below from ACAS seems to confirm that Bulls newco are potentially liable as they fit as having taken over all the relevant bullet points. Business transfers The TUPE regulations apply if a business or part of a business moves to a new owner or merges with another business to make a brand new employer. A part of a business might for example be a distribution function of a larger organisation. Under the TUPE regulations, a business is not judged by its name but by the use made of its assets such as the: * premises *  equipment * work in progress *  goodwill (such as the value of a brand name or a customer base) * intellectual property * employees. http://m.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/j/p/Hand ... -Guide.pdf It mentions using assts not having bought them, and there wasn't any goodwill at that point!!! Also there was no business as a going concern, so it couldn't move! The ACAS guidance doesn't cover a business setting up from new, which new co did, when the previous business ceased to exist. We know that because big Nige and Ralph told us

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 4:57 pm  

Unless and until we know what specific legal claims are actually directed at the new Bulls, speculation is pretty pointless.

[Bulliac]

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 5:06 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Oh great. Meanwhile the administrator who told the staff to carry on trading while he earnt £210 per hour according to his report, and Marc Green who signed all the bloody players to the contracts won't have to pay a penny.

If the liquidation really isn't yet complete then we must assume he is STILL earning £210 per hour...

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 7:19 pm  

Cramer has a knack of winning these kinds of cases, he must see an angle and he must think he can win!

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 7:59 pm  

Can't we have Cramer on our pay roll in the future?!

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 8:16 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Can't we have Cramer on our pay roll in the future?!

But would he get paid?

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 8:42 pm  

And yet another saga begins...

You couldn't write this stuff.

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Thu May 11, 2017 7:51 am  

Mirfieldbull wrote:

It mentions using assts not having bought them, and there wasn't any goodwill at that point!!!

In the more generic sense, I think you are right that a lot of people were, are and continue to be at the end of their tether - but in the definition they provided (the value of a brand name or a customer base) there is actually a lot. All you'd have to do is point to the thousands of people (the customer base) turning up to watch the new Bradford Bulls (the brand) complete the fixtures of the old business.