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Re: Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season : Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:53 pm  
We need as much continuity/consistency as we can muster. Get Toovs to stay for next year then review where we are after a full preseason and season...
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Re: Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season : Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:23 pm  
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I'm not sure that's a very objective view of Toovey's time as coach at Manly.

I agree we need a coach that can get players to play above themselves. Any suggestions? Obvs Kear is now signed up at Wakey.


Well, I'll accept it's not a full blow by blow account of every minute he spent there, (as I'd never heard of him before he came over it was all blagged from the internet, tbh :lol: ) but as a thinned down precis, covering the bare essentials, I think it sums up the differences between his job at Manly and his current one here at the Bulls and, in that sense, I feel it is certainly objective, if nothing else.

Now he may turn out to be the best coach we've ever had, and be chosen for our 'team of the 21st century', and no-one would be more pleased than me if this turned out to be the case, but, and this is the whole point of my original post, I just don't see anything that jumps out from his previous coaching experience to suggest he is the man for our particular set of circumstances.

I hope he's given the owners something more solid about his intentions though, as they definitely need to get something sorted PDQ if he is leaving. Though I suppose it could be him who doesn't know if they want him to stay. Damn all this tight lipped stuff.....
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Re: Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season : Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:49 pm  
He's maybe waiting to find out at the fans forum. Transitioning out of these circumstances is obviously occupying all of Chalo's time.
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Re: Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season : Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:33 pm  
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He's maybe waiting to find out at the fans forum. Transitioning out of these circumstances is obviously occupying all of Chalo's time.


:lol: and dont forget theres "a lot happening"
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Re: Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season : Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:45 pm  
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He's maybe waiting to find out at the fans forum. Transitioning out of these circumstances is obviously occupying all of Chalo's time.


That fans forum that's been coming "next month" for about 6 months. They'll do that thing again where they have a specially invited forum of "random" fans who spent over £200 in the shop, or who are sat in the Wetherspoons in town at midday in their Bulls shirt, already half cut.
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Re: Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season : Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:19 pm  
I'm also rather tired of being in transition.
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Re: Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season : Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:27 pm  
Me too but that's a different story..
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Re: Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season : Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:42 pm  
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That 0-20 vs Fev was probably the most disappointing match I've ever been to.

That said he had the side playing better rugby than his predecessor and seemed to have an idea about how to recruit. Like Toovey there were off field distractions and he never got the chance to show what he could do with his own side. I think Smith came over well, he conducted himself impeccably during Admin 3. I think that's why he's well thought of.

Based purely on results though we blew it badly when he had the big chance to show he was up to the job.

What's your thoughts on Toovey Red?

Smith doesn't cover himself in glory up to Admin 3. As for Toovey he admitted himself that in any other job he would be gone. He thinks the UK loan system is barmy nothing remotely like it in Aus. He seemed fully committed to the cause just needs a settled squad.
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Re: Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season : Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:11 am  
I agree about the loan system, it's barmy, but it is designed for our unique (British) circumstances.

Without a proper reserve grade, how else would many young players coming out of the academy play in a suitable environment, which is both beneficial to their own development and which also benefits the clubs? From our own, admittedly special, point of view this season we wouldn't have had a squad without the loanees and DRs, we'd have been down to playing all the academy lads, whether they were mature enough or not. Even with the loaned players a few of our 'kids' have been flogged a bit more than is good for them, imo.
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Re: Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season : Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:22 am  
What about Nobby - got experience of the upper end of League 1 :wink:

(Not actually a serious suggestion, but it is officially law that Brian Noble must be linked to the head coach job every time it comes into question)
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