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Re: Barrow at home : Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:59 am  
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Shaw took ages but the ref did stop the clock from what I saw.

Yes but well after aminute had expired.
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Re: Barrow at home : Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:04 pm  
Hmm. As has been said, that assumption that we would win came back again, like at York, like at Barrow & Widnes. And we lost. It’s got to be the playmakers that determine that with their pass/kick/run choices. And that’s on Patton, lesser extent Flanagan as age has caught him this season.
But that was retrievable at half time as we had played the worst half of the season but our goal line defence was ok, so we were only 8-0 down.
And there was a short period where we got quick ptb, due to running hard and direct and Barrow couldn’t cope. But then we went away from it and the chance was gone.
So, Patton has to go - definitely at the end of the season. Whether we drop him now is a risk, but Lilley/Gaskell or Jowitt/Gaskell or Lawford/Gaskell have to be considered.
Time has caught Flanagan up. No shame in that and we have other hooking options
That was a bad refereeing performance. Rodgers disallowed try looked perfectly fine from the direct overhead view from the Coral stand.
The bite. There wasn’t any video evidence. There were 3 options. An experienced ex- NRL player deliberately bit the forearm of another player. It was an accidental coming together of a forearm and jaw in contact. Or it wasn’t accidental and the Barrow player used his forearm to forcibly drive the opponent’s head into the ground.
9 times out of 10, a referee would put that on report or go to the video ref as generally its 1 players word vs another. But there was a mark, so he made a choice.
Batley will know they just have to do the basics, wind up Patton and suck up to the ref to win.
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Re: Barrow at home : Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:06 pm  
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Shaw took ages but the ref did stop the clock from what I saw.

So for an 80 minute game, I think we watched Shaw looking at a ball on a tee for about 8 minutes.
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Re: Barrow at home : Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:46 pm  
How many penalties did Patton give away? Chat on Facebook said 5 but I'm not sure about that. If correct and he gets picked next week then I give up!

It's not the first time that discipline has been bad. We are brainless sometimes and so easy to wind up.
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Re: Barrow at home : Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:11 pm  
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How many penalties did Patton give away? Chat on Facebook said 5 but I'm not sure about that. If correct and he gets picked next week then I give up!

It's not the first time that discipline has been bad. We are brainless sometimes and so easy to wind up.


They had 3 kicks at goal off the back of him. The ref was a joke and that penalty at the end for a late hit on the kicker - I've seen it back on viaplay's youtube channel - was an absolutely garbage call, but we were our own worst enemy last night.

What's people's opinion on the bite? I think it's rubbish and we should be doing it to other teams from now on. Running up to the ref claiming someones been bitten or had their knackers grabbed. Again it's on the highlights on vaiplay youtube and there's no way the ref could possibly see it if it happened.
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Re: Barrow at home : Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:14 pm  
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On the biting incident, if he has bitten him he shouldn't play for us again. Horrible act.

But watching it on Viaplay just left me bemused. Barrows player arms around the mouth but there isn't a biting/clamping and then disappear behind the bodies. Barrow player then gets up waving his arm around for a good 2-3 seconds accusing of being bitten. Ref then calls time off (not give a penalty) looks at the arm then says he's seen it and sends off Taufua. Just bemusing how the camera angle showing the incident clearly didn't show anything, yet the ref saw the incident through all those bodies and yet didn't blow for a penalty and called time off after the player made a complaint. I think hes seen a mark on an arm and decided that's sufficient evidence. Again if he has bitten him, he shouldn't play again.


I don't think he did and it;s not the first time someones done that to get one of our players sent off and banned. Time we did it.
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Re: Barrow at home : Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:21 pm  
I wonder how much resigning business has been done already? If certain players aren't getting offered a new deal and they've been told, perhaps that might explain some half assed efforts.

You'd like to think players who give 100% til the end of the season and I'm sure some will, but equally I'm sure some might not.

I was hoping the mini run of form recently was this side turning a corner and buying into the new coaching setup, but it seems the inconsistencies will haunt us for a bit longer yet.
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Re: Barrow at home : Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:01 pm  
Just on the biting incident, watching the highlights on you tube, the referee certainly doesn't see Taufua bite the Barrow player as he claimed on the TV. His exact words were "I've seen him bite him me, I have" but watching the Bulls highlights where you can see the ref for the whole incident, he doesn't react until the Barrow player comes running up to him making the claim. It's a good 5 seconds after the incident.

He's effectively given a red card without seeing the incident "despite claiming to" and has gone on nothing more than an allegeded bite mark on an arm.

I genuinely don't know if he's bitten him, maybe the mark is clear, but the ref saying "I've seen him bite him me" when he clearly doesn't. Just doesn't sit right with me that incident.
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Re: Barrow at home : Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:49 pm  
Not a big fan of Patton, I’ve always felt he thought the championship was below him after his experience with Warrington. Reality is it’s about his level, but not a fan of his attitude, although his goal kicking is excellent that’s not enough reason to keep him moving forward and think we should get rid, and have Gaskell, Holmes half back partnership.
Think Holmes is more effective for the team at half back than fullback. Would like us to try bring in Hooley or Jowitt at full back moving forward.
Very disappointing result everything considered.
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Re: Barrow at home : Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:56 pm  
I agree with that. I hear Patton is going at the end of the year so why persist in selecting him if he's not giving 100%?
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