Re: carvell : Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:44 pm  

Cripesginger wrote:

This can't be true. Only yesterday we heard:

Bulls chief executive Robbie Hunter-Paul said: “Garreth Carvell is contracted to the Bradford Bulls and that contract is registered with the RFL. He’s still a member of our staff.”

Surely a CEO and member of the lastest bod could not be sooo out of touch?

Not at all.

As far as I am aware, both statements were factually correct.

The contract WAS registered with the RFL. The RFL apparently said they would not stand in the way of Hull FC seeking to regsiter him, since it was a contractual dispute between two clubs. So we must now assume that Hull FC have since registered a contract, as he is named in their squad.

The club clearly believes the player continues to be subject to his contract with the Bulls, and so by implication is in breach of contract. That will be a legal issue between both clubs and the player, to be resolved. The club will assuredly be seeking compensation in some form, so is hardly going to come out and say "win some, lose some, he's fekked off so that's just tough on us", is it?

Nice try sunshine, but another bad fail.

Re: carvell : Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:59 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Not at all.

As far as I am aware, both statements were factually correct.

The contract WAS registered with the RFL. The RFL apparently said they would not stand in the way of Hull FC seeking to regsiter him, since it was a contractual dispute between two clubs. So we must now assume that Hull FC have since registered a contract, as he is named in their squad.

The club clearly believes the player continues to be subject to his contract with the Bulls, and so by implication is in breach of contract. That will be a legal issue between both clubs and the player, to be resolved. The club will assuredly be seeking compensation in some form, so is hardly going to come out and say "win some, lose some, he's fekked off so that's just tough on us", is it?

Nice try sunshine, but another bad fail.

Wrong. RFL have a better grasp of TUPE than RHP.

Poor Robbie ! Will he be the latest Bulls director blindly supported by Adeybull only to later be bagged by him?

Adeybull feel free to pull my post apart sentence by sentence and offer paragraphs of your usual guff.

Meanwhile We can add Robbie's Carvell statement to the list including his assertions on paying players etc.

Re: carvell : Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:19 pm  

Cripesginger wrote:

Wrong. RFL have a better grasp of TUPE than RHP.

Poor Robbie ! Will he be the latest Bulls director blindly supported by Adeybull only to later be bagged by him?

Adeybull feel free to pull my post apart sentence by sentence and offer paragraphs of your usual guff.

Meanwhile We can add Robbie's Carvell statement to the list including his assertions on paying players etc.

If your argument can be pulled apart, it doesn't sound very strong

[Bullseye]

Re: carvell : Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:24 pm  

The glee displayed by some folk that support other clubs does them absolutely no credit at all.

Re: carvell : Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:30 pm  

Cripesginger wrote:

Wrong. RFL have a better grasp of TUPE than RHP

Pray enlighten us as to what actions Carvell took when notified of the intended TUPE? And when?

Pray enlighten us of any reasons - fact, not guess or hearsay - as to why TUPE would not have applied to the transfer?

And, since the RFL apparently stated that the issue is a contractual one between the clubs, they were obviously not seeking to comment on the merits or otherwise of the TUPE. Apart from, maybe, acknowledging that Carvell COULD still be contracted to the Bulls (and thereby implicitly agreeing with RHP), since if they believed he was NOT, they would surely have said so? Remember of course that registering a player is separate to any contractual relationship - as we all saw over the Iestyn debacle.

OK, post pulled apart as requested. Is there any other waknerage you'd like to spout that we can pull apart?

Sorry though, any response from me will have to wait a while now - I'm off to do some useful work with the supporters' trust. Actions vs words, and all that.

Re: carvell : Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:32 pm  

Gunna b interesting on Friday night.
Now there will be 5 (YES 5!!!!) former bulls players playing for Hull or Catalans

Leon Pryce
Olivier Elima
Ian Henderson
Garreth Carvell
Elliott Whitehead

Re: carvell : Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:34 pm  

I was planning on getting 'Carvell 10' on the back of my shirt

Now im glad I havent

Re: carvell : Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:26 pm  

Gareth Carvell is clearly a likeable chap.
He has now screwed over and royally messed about 2 SL clubs to suit his own ends.

Re: carvell : Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:31 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

Gareth Carvell is clearly a likeable chap.
He has now screwed over and royally messed about 2 SL clubs to suit his own ends.

This is a very good point. In the future which club would possibly want to employ such a loyal and faithful coach?

Re: carvell : Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:38 pm  

We need players who are committed and loyal to their teammates in such a crucial year of relegation. Carvell has form for wriggling out of contracts, Hull are welcome to him. They haven't had a lot of recent luck with signings from us (Crookes) or when they have gazumped us (Seymour) so hopefully we'll see that trend continue!

Looks like we're actively seeking a replacement or two so hopefully we might see a recruit possible from down under in the not too distant future.