Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:40 am  

Stul wrote:

I would doubt immediately as there are a number of reason, beyond a club's control, as to why this could happen.

Every once in a while there will be a major banking balls up that leads to people not being paid - clubs couldn't allow that kind of risk.

However, I would imagine that there's a period of time after pay day (14 days, perhaps?) after which contacts are voided, or perhaps it could be linked to the number of times this has happened.

Either way, as the club as a viable entity currently doesn't exist, I can't see anybody (officially - the coach will, of course) fighting to keep hold of players. From the administrator's point of view, a few players leaving is less money to be found for wages. So I would have thought that any player wishing to jump ship (and who could blame them) could do so without too much difficulty.

Surely a contracted player is counted as an asset.

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:47 am  

What a mess! After 7 weeks of Admin we are left with Hobson's choice

1. Unknown bidder (rumoured to be Leo Group) who appear to want the lease so that they can build some sort of biomass plant on the land. So far as we know, no love for the rugby club, and no indication that they will invest in the club or team

OR

2. Penniless chancer who will take the club if its liquidated, and then get the supporters to pay for it.

Doesn't exactly inspire, does it...?

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:49 am  

It's very depressing.

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:51 am  

It's even more depressing thinking that there is not one person out there wanting to invest in this club.

[Bulliac]

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:54 am  

woolly07 wrote:

I get the point of struggling to run a club in Div 1 with less supporters but I know a couple of P.A. fans who will just say "that is what we do" and is working fine - to a point - then you need someone to take over and give the club a push.

We could survive. I would definitely leave Odsal and start again with PA and hope between the two clubs we could build a nice little stadium like Fev have done on a very tight budget.
No, it isn't perfect but it would still be "Bradford Northern 2017" and give us some hope and pride back. Then we could look round for a business owner to get involved and build slowly again.

There is a big big difference between Avenue and Bulls though.

Avenue were dead for a quite a while, before a totally unrelated [except through the heart] local, amateur league, team, consisting of former fans, set up a club and begged use of the ground from the council, Bulls, on the other hand, have a strong, though dwindling, supporter base with a recent history of much success.

The difference is in expectations; Avenue, originally had none, other than to honour the club whose name they bear and to play amateur football, though I accept that those expectations have been raised over the years, that 'dis-connect' from the original club is a major difference, imo. Bulls fans, grounded in success, are somewhat different and generally more varied in their expectations Whilst some can see, and accept, the position the club is in, many are still, seriously discussing "how long before we get back to SL" In other words, it is far too soon for Bulls fans to be like Avenue fans were in the foreseeable future.

I do agree that a ground share, probably not at either Horsfall or Odsal, unless a deal could be arranged about the lease, would be a good way forward for both clubs if Bulls finish in championship 1 [or lower] or even in the championship.

Incidentally, I see no reason why any 'new' club can't continue to use Bulls as a name. Northern continued as Northern after1963 and Avenue kept the Park Avenue name for their new club. Bulls, after all, is a far more marketable name and would be far easier to raise the flag around.

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:56 am  

There's actually about 4 thousand of you who want to invest in the club, sadly, and wrongly imo, you think it's the end of your chances of getting back into the sl

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:00 am  

j.c wrote:

There's actually about 4 thousand of you who want to invest in the club, sadly, and wrongly imo, you think it's the end of your chances of getting back into the sl

Is there? How do you work that out?

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:07 am  

debaser wrote:

It's even more depressing thinking that there is not one person out there wanting to invest in this club.

unfortunately "invest" usually means getting a return on that investment...there is no profit in running a rugby club alone, it needs some other form of income to subsidise it. The men with money seem to want the club for nothing as long as they get the lease.....wonder why...would they subsidise the club enough to return it to former glory...at least a million a season or would they run it with the income from only the RFL, sponsors, gate receipts and merchandise...nowhere near enough to challenge for super league next season...it just seems that there are not that many philanthropists that enjoy rugby league out there who are not already connected to a club.

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:12 am  

debaser wrote:

Is there? How do you work that out?

The size of your crowds just a couple of years ago, the willingness to pay over the top for a season ticket, merchandise sales, bull builder, the passion I've seen from your fans.
Your a city, you've got so many people and businesses to target for membership sales

Re: Administration 3 - now in technicolour : Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:16 am  

paulwalker71 wrote:

What a mess! After 7 weeks of Admin we are left with Hobson's choice

1. Unknown bidder (rumoured to be Leo Group) who appear to want the lease so that they can build some sort of biomass plant on the land. So far as we know, no love for the rugby club, and no indication that they will invest in the club or team

OR

2. Penniless chancer who will take the club if its liquidated, and then get the supporters to pay for it.

Doesn't exactly inspire, does it...?

Let's not be too hasty on the Leo Group bid. Were it not for a couple of posters on here and a twitter rumour, you wouldn't even know they were even bidding. Their name has not been mentioned by a single professional journalist yet. They themselves have not uttered a single word about this publicly.

Not sure where this talk of a biomass plant and no love for the club has come from. I think people are just making assumptions based on what little info they have at this point, which is fair enough, but at least wait until something official comes out before you write them off.