Re: 2016 Membership : Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:32 pm  

I have always thought that removing ANY sort of "early bird" discount was a bad move. I paid early for all the time the offers were in place, but so far I haven't renewed yet, not as any deliberate policy even, I just haven't got round to it and without the availability of a discount to push it up my list of priorities, it's just in my to-do list.

All I see in our situation, tbh, is a downward spiral, we needed to go straight back up and failed, so this second year is really stretching it. All this "if people want..." stuff is totally irrelevant, though. IMHO the extra numbers that make up the big crowds in the tasty fixtures will come if there's something worth it in their view, and if there isn't - they won't. I reckon the vast majority of those people couldn't really care less if the Bulls went permanently down the tube, or even if they would prefer they didn't, that has no bearing on their expenditure.

Nobody but the base hard core fans will stump up due to any feelings of obligation or concern for the club's well-being, and appeals on the lines of "If you want a top level club ..." are really the most embarrassing waste of time, not one single person will be browbeaten into paying through attempted guilt tripping, and it just never ceases to amaze me that club chairmen (across sports) ever still resort to such attempts at emotional blackmail.

[Bullseye]

Re: 2016 Membership : Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:08 pm  

Pretty much makes 2016 poop or bust.

Re: 2016 Membership : Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:22 pm  

Couldn't agree more with FA's post above, and thanks for saving me the trouble of typing it all out

I haven't got mine yet either. But will once I get paid at the end of the month

Re: 2016 Membership : Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:00 pm  

i wonder how many of the "we must keep a full time team" have not brought a season ticket this year, In all honesty i think we have a better chance of going up this year than last season everybody knows what to expect in the middle 8s

COYB

Re: 2016 Membership : Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:57 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Pretty much makes 2016 poop or bust.

Well, we know Marc Green won't put a penny into the club.

Re: 2016 Membership : Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:14 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I have always thought that removing ANY sort of "early bird" discount was a bad move. I paid early for all the time the offers were in place, but so far I haven't renewed yet, not as any deliberate policy even, I just haven't got round to it and without the availability of a discount to push it up my list of priorities, it's just in my to-do list.

All I see in our situation, tbh, is a downward spiral, we needed to go straight back up and failed, so this second year is really stretching it. All this "if people want..." stuff is totally irrelevant, though. IMHO the extra numbers that make up the big crowds in the tasty fixtures will come if there's something worth it in their view, and if there isn't - they won't. I reckon the vast majority of those people couldn't really care less if the Bulls went permanently down the tube, or even if they would prefer they didn't, that has no bearing on their expenditure.

Nobody but the base hard core fans will stump up due to any feelings of obligation or concern for the club's well-being, and appeals on the lines of "If you want a top level club ..." are really the most embarrassing waste of time, not one single person will be browbeaten into paying through attempted guilt tripping, and it just never ceases to amaze me that club chairmen (across sports) ever still resort to such attempts at emotional blackmail.

This. Completely this.

I probably am one of those base hardcore. I've got my renewal sorted already, but then, I would have that renewal regardless of division, regardless of players, as so long as I can afford it. I am not in any way swayed or influenced by the emotional blackmail that comes out of the club and Mr. Ferres especially, who I honestly don't trust as far as I could throw him. I tend not to listen to most of the guff.

The club are in a Chicken and Egg situation. They need some success to get fans back. They need fans back to finance a team that can bring success. It's a difficult situation, but all this "each fan needs to spend £900 a year to get promotion" kind of rubbish falls on deaf ears here I'm afraid.

Re: 2016 Membership : Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:52 pm  

The problem with "each fan needs to spend £900 a year to get promotion" is that it is not a guarantee. If it was I am sure many would pay it as we did when we had the £500k in 10 days scenario. The scenario we have now is "once bitten twice shy".

Re: 2016 Membership : Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:39 am  

Can someone provide a source for Marc Green, or anyone at the club, actually saying that '£900 to get promoted' rubbish, because I don't believe for one second that they actually said that.

What I suspect they might have said was, hypothetically, is that if we wanted to have a SL level salary cap available to us, then - at our current level of ST holders - each one would need to spend £900.

There is a big difference in those two statements. Nobody at the club would be dumb enough to say 'spend £900 to get the club promoted'.

Re: 2016 Membership : Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:53 am  

Nothus wrote:

Can someone provide a source for Marc Green, or anyone at the club, actually saying that '£900 to get promoted' rubbish, because I don't believe for one second that they actually said that.

What I suspect they might have said was, hypothetically, is that if we wanted to have a SL level salary cap available to us, then - at our current level of ST holders - each one would need to spend £900.

There is a big difference in those two statements. Nobody at the club would be dumb enough to say 'spend £900 to get the club promoted'.

Of course that's what they said. I was exaggerating to make a point, which I thought would be obvious.

Re: 2016 Membership : Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:05 am  

HamsterChops wrote:

Of course that's what they said. I was exaggerating to make a point, which I thought would be obvious.

Not obvious, quite a few people on here have used the same quote as if it was actually said.