Re: Squad vs. Leeds : Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:12 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

Couldn't agree more on Sidlow, I thought he was outstanding in the first half before he went off. Looked every bit as good as Leeds' top class props. Got Bulls' best player vote from Phil Caplan in League Express too, and rightly so.

Agree too on Halafihi. I've numerous times mentioned on here I don't think he's good enough, but he showed up well in the game time he got against Leeds. Much better than anything he did in a Bulls shirt last season. I'm starting to doubt my original assessment.

Ethan Ryan didn't have to do a whole lot, so hard to judge. Joe Lumb though looked very lively when he came on. A lot of little scoots from dummy half, making a few yards before he passed the ball. Impressive for a young lad who was playing in the first team for the first time against a good side.

The thing with Halafihi last year was that he barely got any game time. O'Brien came on a great deal last year, mainly because he was playing 80 minutes nearly every week and it did tax him towards the back end of the year. The hooker role needs to be better split between the two of them to give both players the time to develop and to ensure neither is completely shagged out come the business end of the season

Re: Squad vs. Leeds : Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:20 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Ryan has always been like that. He looks like he is a dead man walking and then suddenly runs the length of the field or makes a wonder tackle.
I've never been quite sure whether he puts it on to throw the opposition, whether he just has that open mouthed look that makes you look knackered or whether he actually is knackered and puts in the extra effort despite being knackered.

Just to be clear, the posters are referring to our young outside back Ethan Ryan, rather than Matt Ryan who wasn't offered a new deal for this season.

Re: Squad vs. Leeds : Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:08 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

The thing with Halafihi last year was that he barely got any game time. O'Brien came on a great deal last year, mainly because he was playing 80 minutes nearly every week and it did tax him towards the back end of the year. The hooker role needs to be better split between the two of them to give both players the time to develop and to ensure neither is completely shagged out come the business end of the season

Agreed. Sidlow, Gaskell and O,brien all looked class on Sunday and completely different players to the ones towards the end of last season (as they were on their knees) We keep our key men fit, healthy and FRESH, then those players can hurt any team.

The pleasing thing for me is the players we kept from last year all looked to have improved and I thought we looked a lot slicker in our attack. For me squad management and injuries will be key. I think lessons have been learnt from over playing out key men last year.

[Bullseye]

Re: Squad vs. Leeds : Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:08 pm  

They must learn lessons. I remember our key men looked fresh at the beginning of last season too.

It's crucial Lowes uses the squad more. That might mean a few more losses but we need to arrive in the 8s with the best 17 as fresh as possible.

Re: Squad vs. Leeds : Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:14 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

They must learn lessons. I remember our key men looked fresh at the beginning of last season too.

It's crucial Lowes uses the squad more. That might mean a few more losses but we need to arrive in the 8s with the best 17 as fresh as possible.

We made the 8's at a stroll. Bit of a problem with the team and motivation through out the season, but I think this, again, is down to the issue with squad rotation. If the squad is being rotated and seen to be rotated then players have the fact that they might not get picked next week. Lowes' refusal to play players beyond his first choice 17 was damaging to the results as certain players were getting clattered every week with no rest and others were having to do additional work because of players coasting along but still getting in the side every week

[Bulliac]

Re: Squad vs. Leeds : Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:16 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

They must learn lessons. I remember our key men looked fresh at the beginning of last season too.

It's crucial Lowes uses the squad more. That might mean a few more losses but we need to arrive in the 8s with the best 17 as fresh as possible.

Agreed. If the championship was the main part of the season then fair enough - target every match, but it isn't the main part of the season, it's just the qualification section, so we need to do what we need to do and not obsess about winning the 'title' - let Leigh do that if they wish, we'll concentrate on being in the best shape for the main part.

Re: Leeds Friendly & post match discussion : Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:21 pm  

I think people are underestimating the task. It isn't simply "doing enough" to make the Super 8s. IMHO the only realistic shot we have of promotion (and I actually don't think it's possible barring Wakey-style calamiteis - but they do happen) is the automatic promotion spot. No chance in the MPG.

But, that means your Super 8s fixture list suddenly becomes critical, and thus you really do need to finish top to give yourselves the best chance in that comp. Lamely scraping in, in 3rd or 4th or whatever, is no good at all, and would eliminate any hope of a 3rd place finish, in my book at least.

You can be in as good shape as you want, we ain't gonna get much change from away SL team fixtures and that's a fact.

Entirely agree Lowes overplayed his key men, and they need to be properly spelled, but it is no use treating the league as a warm up. yes you do need to build to hit your best form in the Super 8s, but we must seriously aim at top spot, second at worst.

Re: Leeds Friendly & post match discussion : Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:43 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I think people are underestimating the task. It isn't simply "doing enough" to make the Super 8s. IMHO the only realistic shot we have of promotion (and I actually don't think it's possible barring Wakey-style calamiteis - but they do happen) is the automatic promotion spot. No chance in the MPG.

But, that means your Super 8s fixture list suddenly becomes critical, and thus you really do need to finish top to give yourselves the best chance in that comp. Lamely scraping in, in 3rd or 4th or whatever, is no good at all, and would eliminate any hope of a 3rd place finish, in my book at least.

You can be in as good shape as you want, we ain't gonna get much change from away SL team fixtures and that's a fact.

Entirely agree Lowes overplayed his key men, and they need to be properly spelled, but it is no use treating the league as a warm up. yes you do need to build to hit your best form in the Super 8s, but we must seriously aim at top spot, second at worst.

Top 2 should be the target and that is achievable as we are one of the two best teams in the league and I can't see us finishing lower, but it is hard to see past the first 23 rounds as anything other than a warm up for the important final matches in the middle 8.

Re: Leeds Friendly & post match discussion : Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:43 pm  

It's still a race for the top 2 for me. Yes, top spot gives slightly favourable fixtures but if we're going to be good enough to finish in an automatic promotion spot then I don't see much different between finishing 1st or 2nd. It's still a race for the top 2 for me. Yes, top spot gives slightly favourable fixtures but if we're going to be good enough to finish in an automatic promotion spot then I don't see much different between finishing 1st or 2nd.

Re: Leeds Friendly & post match discussion : Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:37 pm  

Thinking about the middle 8 structure, if the RFL were genuinely serious about having promotion then the fixtures should be set that all SL vs Championship games should be home advantage to the Championship side. After all, those are the 4 best clubs in their league, whereas the 4 SL sides are the 4 worst of their league.