Re: No one has been paid today : Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:12 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Who exactly are the platoon of fans with the spare time, business expertise, and willingness to devote their time full-time to running a professional rugby league side, for free?

And why exactly would anyone think these amateur volunteers could make it all pay, when highly paid professionals have struggled and failed?

Our current owner did not appear to have any previous connection with or knowledge of the game - he got the highly paid professional trio of managers: Lowes, RHP and Ferres to do the actual running of the club. I assume that is what a magical fans committee would also do - the real issue is could the happy fans stump up with readies to keep the club afloat year after year?

Re: No one has been paid today : Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:25 am  

Northernrelic wrote:

Our current owner did not appear to have any previous connection with or knowledge of the game - he got the highly paid professional trio of managers: Lowes, RHP and Ferres to do the actual running of the club. I assume that is what a magical fans committee would also do - the real issue is could the happy fans stump up with readies to keep the club afloat year after year?

I'm baffled by this. In your example, what then would the role, or indeed point, of the fans committee be? How would it be cheaper, if they paid out the same salaries for the same key positions? I don't get it.

[Bullseye]

Re: No one has been paid today : Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:22 am  

We'd be in National League 2 in Studd's world so costs would be cheaper for coaches at least albeit just as unaffordable.

None of it adds up. RL is an unsustainable business model at Bradford, whatever the level we play at. Cost will always exceed income.

Re: No one has been paid today : Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:26 am  

I'm afraid my plans to win the Euromillions failed last night, so this is one fan that won't be buying the club.

Re: No one has been paid today : Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:34 am  

If I won the euromillions I'd be planning on doing better things than running a RL club. I'd possibly sponsor the club in some way, but buy it? No chance, it wouldn't be worth the hassle!

Re: No one has been paid today : Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:10 pm  

Could be a long off-season for the Bulls with cash flow possibly being an issue especially if its a problem now.

Hope you lot sort something out as I want you to be a force in 2017.

Re: No one has been paid today : Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:47 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I'm baffled by this. In your example, what then would the role, or indeed point, of the fans committee be? How would it be cheaper, if they paid out the same salaries for the same key positions? I don't get it.

I was assuming people were talking about ownership of the club, and how this is usually separate from the day to day running of the "business" and playing side. So from a operational standpoint if in this fans utopia the fans had taken over - then like other owners they would appoint managers, so not necessarily requiring time, effort or even knowledge ( though that clearly would be welcome) from themselves. So unless the fans committee had some altruistic members with the relevant skills which they were then willing to provide the club at no or little cost then you wouldn't make many savings in running costs.

The real issue is that 'ownership" of any professional RL club requires regular injections of cash and or personal guarantees from its owners and I think this is where the notion of trying to run a club in the higher leagues in RL (including league 1) by some sort of fans cooperative falls down.

It is not just RL but the majority of sports in the professional era where costs have mushroomed to the extent to which the sport at the higher levels have become whole dependent on getting a regular fix from either Sky (or equivalent TV deal) or some indulgent member of the super-rich elite.

Re: No one has been paid today : Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:56 pm  

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Re: No one has been paid today : Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:07 pm  

That LoveRugbyLeague article is sensationalism. Either name and shame or keep your mouth shut.

Re: No one has been paid today : Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:10 pm  

dddooommm wrote:

That LoveRugbyLeague article is sensationalism. Either name and shame or keep your mouth shut.

Couldn't agree more. It really get on my Tits. Why do it.