Re: Toronto playing at Odsal : Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:51 pm  

FevGrinder wrote:

If the Bulls get a say about what events are run and are getting revenue from these other events that is brilliant, but I suspect that they don't. Which was my point of the original post.

They do. If they didn't, why would they devote any of their own resources to marketing them? The marketing of those events came from the club, not from the RFL or the Council.

Re: Toronto playing at Odsal : Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:15 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Not sure where you've got the idea that the Bulls only "rent" the ground for '1 day in 14'. It's actually a lease, and the lease is over many years - 100+. I doubt the landlord (Bfd Met) have any intention of leasing to anyone else and we, as a sub tenant of the primary leaseholder (The RFL), currently have full use.

Absolutely. The idea that as tenant you kind of "share" possession and use with your landlord is frankly silly.

But, it is the Head Lease that was for 150 years. The previous club when the RFL bought the lease, got a sub lease for 30 years. So I assume all we have is a sublease for the balance of that 30 years.

Re: Toronto playing at Odsal : Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:05 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

They do. If they didn't, why would they devote any of their own resources to marketing them? The marketing of those events came from the club, not from the RFL or the Council.

HC,

Potentially for a number of reasons, the Bulls may get advertising revenue (just like any other event paying for advertising in the Bulls programs), the Bulls may get a cut of any tickets they sell, it could be part of their lease agreement (so as to keep lease costs down) that they have to market them, etc.

Question for you, if the Bulls do have a say in these events and get significant revenue in from them, why would the Bulls not be pushing these event to happen every weekend (even 2 or 3 times a week), since the extra income stream from this has to be huge. The likes of Dewsbury are running regular car boot sales for this type of revenue, surely the events that could be run at Odsal would generate significantly higher revenue.

Take this with my tongue firmly in my cheek, but if the Bulls are getting a say and revenue from these events, then maybe they should have been pushing these big time since the significant extra revenue may have meant that you would have never been in administration.

Re: Toronto playing at Odsal : Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:57 pm  

Maybe they learnt from the 80's extravaganza...

Re: Toronto playing at Odsal : Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:07 pm  

Exactly. Some people seem to think that all you have to do is put up a few posters and make a killing, but life doesn't work like that. You can get people to your events but unless your net income exceeds the organisational and running costs then there's not a lot of point.

I think that more use of the stadium to generate more income is actually something that the people from time to time running the club may actually have thought of. It isn't revelations now is it?

If you know of something that will make a killing, then why not offer to run it at Odsal, hire the stadium and keep all the profit for yourself. I'm sure they would agree as long as you paid and covered all expenses and produced adequate insurance cover.

They already do run a car boot.