Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Tue May 23, 2017 2:57 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

I've had a couple of days to think about things since the god awful crap I witnessed on Sunday, and the more I think about it, the more I come down to this particular bit of info that Bullseye has just said...

I am f***ing pig sick of them staying silent and absolutely nothing being said about the state of affairs. I gave them a few months, I had patience, I appreciated other things were taking precedence. My patience has now worn thin. If Lowe has time to tell us about his bloody tea in Auckland, he has time to tell us where we stand.

I'm not blaming the players, even though they look like they can't be bothered at times. I'm not blaming the coaches who are no doubt doing what they can with limited resources. I'm sure they're feeling as frustrated and annoyed at the total lack of direction and communication as the fans are.

Until I see one of these owners, or the RFL, or whoever the chuff is in charge of us come out and say what the bloody hell is going on, I'm out. This isn't me being upset at losing, this isn't me being upset about maybe being relegated. It's the fact I am pig sick of these "owners" taking the fans for granted and not even being willing to just come out and explain why jack sheet is happening. JUST TELL US. We're not asking for miracles, we're not asking you to sign Johnathan Thurston, we just want some idea of what is going on. And until you stop taking us for granted, I am no longer a customer. I shall watch from the TV and listen from the radio, however I shall not spend another pound at that club until we get some degree of answers, even if those answers are just an honest "We haven't got a pot to urinate in and we're right up sheet creek with no paddle".

Rant over.

I did a bit of poking around and found Mr Chalmers Bulls email address (or so it seems) and sent him an email pretty much saying what you have above. I don't expect to hear anything back though, however if I should I'll post it on here.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Tue May 23, 2017 3:05 pm  

If all these CH clubs want to keep a Bulls payday they'd better play ball and let us win a few to keep the fans interested.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Tue May 23, 2017 3:54 pm  

MicktheGled wrote:

There's so many rumours going around from various sources it's difficult to believe anything. This is why I asked the RFL directly on Thursday after Leigh Beattie admitted in the press conference "he didn't know what was happening with the bottom two clubs."

Here's the full reply from the RFL:

Hi Mick,

In reply to your email below, Operational Rule A1:11 (j) states: At the end of the Championship Shield league the bottom 2 Clubs shall be automatically relegated to League 1 for the following Season. For the avoidance of doubt the Clubs finishing in 1st to 6th shall start the following Season in the Championship

This rule still applies.

It only applies while that's still the rule, rules can be changed

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Tue May 23, 2017 3:55 pm  

MicktheGled wrote:

So unless the other 41 member clubs vote for drastic change at the restructure and shaping the future meeting next month, the bottom two sides of the Championship (regardless of who) will be relegated.

There's 16 games left to play - 32 points. The average points over the last two seasons to see the third place side survive is 17.5points. So 18 points to survive - 10 wins/20 points.

Six game safety net.

I can't honestly call it.

Can't honestly call it - did you actually watch us on Sunday?

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Tue May 23, 2017 4:40 pm  

Frank Whitcombe wrote:

Can't honestly call it - did you actually watch us on Sunday?

Precisely. 10 from 16???. We're not even close to looking like getting 6 from 16. When we're so short of depth and talent that we line up with a left edge of maccani, halafiifi and leon like on sun and drop as much ball and consistently lose the collision we are nowhere, and I mean nowhere close to winning. It's not like we've just been edged out of games by the luck of the bounce, we're getting smashed. If the owners didn't have the funds or ability to put out a competitive team then I'd rather than hadn't bothered and we could have restarted in league 1 like we all said and rebuilt from scratch with an air of clean slate optimism, instead it looks like we will be in league 1 but on a real downer after hemorrhaging fans for another 12 months. Worse than Pointless, unnecessary and potentially fatal to our long term prospects. The only silver lining for me form the last month is bet365 clearly have no idea about the depth of our current plight and I've covered the entry fee by backing the last 4 teams to play us to beat the handicap..

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Tue May 23, 2017 6:09 pm  

Going by what Ralph Rimmer said in League Express last week, the tv agreement is for two divisions of 12 and any changes this year won't change that but will be minor tweaks.

So we now have to win 10 games from 16 in order to survive. Given that we have HKR twice, Fev once and Halifax once then, in effect, it's 10 wins from 12 if 18 points is indeed enough to survive.

Going to have to rediscover the pre Easter form and keep it up right to the end of the season.

[Bullseye]

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Thu May 25, 2017 7:58 am  

Interesting to listen on Mick's interview to Chalmers say there is no plan B for if we go down. He wouldn't be drawn on franchising either as you'd expect.

No firm commitment on a fans forum.

"Be patient, we're doing all we can." seems to be the line.

I'm doubtful whether all he can will be enough.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Thu May 25, 2017 8:10 am  

I always hated the sayings that x league needs a strong x club but in the Championship we certainly need Bradford simply for the money. I know theres a number of Fax fans that will take great delight in Bradfords impending relegation but I know for certain that our directors are worried about the shortfall in money that it would create. Given points totals though it does look like a bridge too far at the moment though. Good luck.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Thu May 25, 2017 8:33 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Interesting to listen on Mick's interview to Chalmers say there is no plan B for if we go down. He wouldn't be drawn on franchising either as you'd expect.

No firm commitment on a fans forum.

"Be patient, we're doing all we can." seems to be the line.

I'm doubtful whether all he can will be enough.

I've been patient for long enough. Trotting out the "be patient more" line is just fobbing people off. My patience has run out. I give Mick plenty of crap on here, but credit to him for trying to get answers there. Unfortunately Chalmers doesn't seem to want to really give any, and just gives the usual soundbites that mean absolutely nothing.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Thu May 25, 2017 8:41 am  

All I heard in the interview was platitudes, we need specifics - are they doing all they can with 50p or £3m? Looking at the lack of genuine rebuilding going on, off and on the pitch it would appear to be the former. So be honest with us and manage our expectations better, the lack of any honest communication is the problem here.

No mention of when we might have a full time coach, why the owners haven't deposited enough money in a bank account to be a functioning business, what is the short, medium and long term business plan - is it predicated upon RFL central funding or is AC serious about long term capital investment into all aspects of the club?

I could just go on and on about so many basics.

Well done to Mick on getting the interview, but I didn't exactly hear AC squirm