Re: New Signings : Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:05 pm  

I would be happy with Ellis Robson back again.

Re: New Signings : Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:13 pm  

Pre-covid we'd some contacts with Hull. Remember when we had Bowen for a friendly game? And Joe Cator a couple of years ago - was that vs Oldham? Basically for a season long loan you're looking at a (for the parent club) 6th choice prop or a 5th choice back row - would Bowen or Robson be classed as that by their clubs?

Re: New Signings : Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:28 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

Purely based on precedent and the many clubs that have chased the SL dream, I'm cynically thinking there's about 25% chance they know what they're doing and 75% they'll go bust. No desire for that to be the case as I'm at worst neutral about Feath but their business model doesn't entirely stack up to me.

Please explain to us exactly what is Fev's business model and how it doesn't stack up. This is a genuine question and I really would like you to explain how it doesn't stack up. in your opinion, of course.

Re: New Signings : Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:42 pm  

Roversspud wrote:

Please explain to us exactly what is Fev's business model and how it doesn't stack up. This is a genuine question and I really would like you to explain how it doesn't stack up. in your opinion, of course.

80% Central funding reduction in 2022 compared to 2021.
Where is the money coming from at Fev?
In 2018 they couldn't afford the squad with higher central funding.
It's a valid question.
Fev had to borrow £381k in loans to get through 2021 which was held against the ground and surrounding land. This is from the most recent accounts and not a sustainable method long term.

Re: New Signings : Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:06 pm  

bulls2487 wrote:

80% Central funding reduction in 2022 compared to 2021.
Where is the money coming from at Fev?
In 2018 they couldn't afford the squad with higher central funding.
It's a valid question.
Fev had to borrow £381k in loans to get through 2021 which was held against the ground and surrounding land. This is from the most recent accounts and not a sustainable method long term.

I'm no expert on accounts but the latest accounts at Companies House are from November 20, and of the £381k borrowed, £200k has already been repaid in full which would mean to me at least that cash flow at the club is in a good place. Indeed, the club recently announced that sales of merchandise was at a very high level and that we were probably selling more than both our close SL rivals. Add to that the fact that we retain ALL our match day revenue streams plus the income from hiring out our function rooms etc , plus the well run Squadbuilder scheme, then it mustn't come as a surprise when we can announce quality signings which we have done consistently while Mark Campbell has been Chairman.

Re: New Signings : Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:32 pm  

Roversspud wrote:

I'm no expert on accounts but the latest accounts at Companies House are from November 20, and of the £381k borrowed, £200k has already been repaid in full which would mean to me at least that cash flow at the club is in a good place. Indeed, the club recently announced that sales of merchandise was at a very high level and that we were probably selling more than both our close SL rivals. Add to that the fact that we retain ALL our match day revenue streams plus the income from hiring out our function rooms etc , plus the well run Squadbuilder scheme, then it mustn't come as a surprise when we can announce quality signings which we have done consistently while Mark Campbell has been Chairman.

The Bulls finances aren't much better we borrow and pay it back. It's not sustainable long-term as one bad year and that's the club at risk.
The question would be in 2018 Fev couldn't afford to field a team, 3 years later they are signing marquee players with no new backer. Martin Vickers involved in signing players the club couldn't afford at Toronto and Salford is the same going to happen at Fev?

Re: New Signings : Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:55 pm  

bulls2487 wrote:

The Bulls finances aren't much better we borrow and pay it back. It's not sustainable long-term as one bad year and that's the club at risk.
The question would be in 2018 Fev couldn't afford to field a team, 3 years later they are signing marquee players with no new backer. Martin Vickers involved in signing players the club couldn't afford at Toronto and Salford is the same going to happen at Fev?

You're right. We did struggle to put out a full team at the very end of the 2018 season but I don't believe that was due to finance. We were struggling with injuries, our DR partner was also struggling with injuries therefore DR players stopped coming across, we'd missed the play offs and were only in the shield and the date for new signings had passed. We received special dispensation to play the Leeds youngsters in the Shield final as did Leigh for their DR youngsters. But this had nowt to do with finances , but more to do with DR failings when injuries hit both parties. We all dislike DR but Fev laid their stall out to go big with DR and it came back to bite them.

Re: New Signings : Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:14 pm  

I hope Robson is one of the ones who comes to us for the season. Wouldn’t say no to Matongo again as well.

Re: New Signings : Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:24 pm  

Bulls Boy 2011 wrote:

I hope Robson is one of the ones who comes to us for the season. Wouldn’t say no to Matongo again as well.

I believe Matongo has signed for York

Re: New Signings : Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:52 pm  

Betsy Bulls wrote:

I suspect they are going to be youngsters or fringe players. I know some fans will expecting to see Walmsley, Makinson and Lomax!

I know you’re probably being facetious, but sadly that is exactly what some will be expecting. Stand by for howls of disappointed outrage on the Facebook groups.