: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:59 pm  

Blotto wrote:

A real supporter takes the pain as well as the gain, so not a lot of real ones on here then!

Which is what to do with posts on here?

Or is a real supporter one who sticks their head in the sand and refuses to discuss any problems?

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:29 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

being honest how many of your players would get into the line up at leeds or saints?

A few IMO...

Platt - Webb - Wellens
Evans - Smith - Gardner
Sykes - Toopi - Gidley
Hape - Senior - Talau
Tadulala - Donald - Meli
Jeffries - McGuire - Pryce
Deacon - Burrow - Long
Lynch - Leuluai - Fozzard
Newton - Diskin - Cunningham
Vagana - Peacock - Cayless
Langley - Buchanen - Gilmour
Morrison - Ellis - Wilkin
Burgess - Sinfield - Sculthorpe

Godwin - Tansey - Roby
Nero - Lauiti'iti - Flannery
Feather - Bailey - Graham
James - Scruton - Fa'asavalu

Lynch, Sykes and Burgess are clearly good enough. I also think it's fair to say that if Hape could pull his finger out, he would be a more dangerous centre than the somewhat ageing centres at Saints and Leeds... Some of the others such as Langley, Newton, Nero and Morrison shouldn't be too far away, if they played to their full potential.

I think on paper our squad isn't too far behind those of Saints & Leeds, but the squad's not performing anything like as well as it should be.

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:33 pm  

redhotjalapeno1 wrote:

A few IMO...

Platt - Webb - Wellens
Evans - Smith - Gardner
Sykes - Toopi - Gidley
Hape - Senior - Talau
Tadulala - Donald - Meli
Jeffries - McGuire - Pryce
Deacon - Burrow - Long
Lynch - Leuluai - Fozzard
Newton - Diskin - Cunningham
Vagana - Peacock - Cayless
Langley - Buchanen - Gilmour
Morrison - Ellis - Wilkin
Burgess - Sinfield - Sculthorpe

Godwin - Tansey - Roby
Nero - Lauiti'iti - Flannery
Feather - Bailey - Graham
James - Scruton - Fa'asavalu

Lynch, Sykes and Burgess are clearly good enough. I also think it's fair to say that if Hape could pull his finger out, he would be a more dangerous centre than the somewhat ageing centres at Saints and Leeds... Some of the others such as Langley, Newton, Nero and Morrison shouldn't be too far away, if they played to their full potential.

I think on paper our squad isn't too far behind those of Saints & Leeds, but the squad's not performing anything like as well as it should be.

I agree on form our squad is a match for any.. we just need the players and the coaching staff to work together and put the effort in.

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:24 pm  

Why bring back Noble I think Mac Namara is doing a sterling job My Bull fan work colleague El Tel is even threatening to leave his couch to attend a game at Odsal to show his support for Mac Namara

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:25 pm  

redhotjalapeno1 wrote:

A few IMO...

Platt - Webb - Wellens
Evans - Smith - Gardner
Sykes - Toopi - Gidley
Hape - Senior - Talau
Tadulala - Donald - Meli
Jeffries - McGuire - Pryce
Deacon - Burrow - Long
Lynch - Leuluai - Fozzard
Newton - Diskin - Cunningham
Vagana - Peacock - Cayless
Langley - Buchanen - Gilmour
Morrison - Ellis - Wilkin
Burgess - Sinfield - Sculthorpe

Godwin - Tansey - Roby
Nero - Lauiti'iti - Flannery
Feather - Bailey - Graham
James - Scruton - Fa'asavalu

Lynch, Sykes and Burgess are clearly good enough. I also think it's fair to say that if Hape could pull his finger out, he would be a more dangerous centre than the somewhat ageing centres at Saints and Leeds... Some of the others such as Langley, Newton, Nero and Morrison shouldn't be too far away, if they played to their full potential.

I think on paper our squad isn't too far behind those of Saints & Leeds, but the squad's not performing anything like as well as it should be.

I would swap Langley for Gilmour And Deacs for Burrow, Mainly for his kicking ability, but i really cant stand Burrow.

: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:18 am  

You for real Ewen Norfolk?

Burrows is the finest scrum half in Super League, by miles and miles. Looks to me like he could become the best British International scrum half we've had for 15 years, or more. And I hope he does.

In fact, in his particular Style of play, he may turn out to be the finest since Murphy - certainly since Roger (Millward).

For my money, RHJ provides a pretty accurate assesment of current Super League talent.

As it goes I'd prefer JJB over Gilmour, and perhaps Gidley over Sykes. But those are only minor quibbles, and broadly, his point is absolutely correct.

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: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:30 am  

andyhullwyke wrote:

i think most of you guys are being a bit harsh on SM, ...

Define "most". Wouldn't you need more than one poster for that?

: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:00 am  

From an outsiders point of view (HKR fan), I think the reality of the fact you have recruited very poorly is not really something you have digested. Signing a bunch of lower/mid-table players will rapidly turn you into a lower/mid-table team.

You have a great front and back row when full strength, but your backs (bar Hape) are woeful and your half-backs are falling way behind SL's elite.

The man to blame for this poor recruitment is Steve McNamara and until he attracts genuine "A-list" stars, then you will find yourselves as a bottom-half side for years to come given the recruitment of sides such as Wire and Rovers...

: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:14 pm  

The Punisher..! wrote:

Which enterprising attacking rugby is that?

the enterprising attacking rugby where the ball ends up on the floor more than anywhere else when we are in possesion

: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:16 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

I would swap Langley for Gilmour And Deacs for Burrow, Mainly for his kicking ability, but i really cant stand Burrow.

i would go for Morrison over Ellis - even though he is the "wrong side of 30", IMO he is one of the best second rowers in the world, although its a hard choice as so is Ellis.