: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:14 pm  

The Giants have the money to sign Bird,but it would be waste of time because he will not be allowed a visa,so dont be getting your hopes up it wont happen.

: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:24 pm  

redeverready wrote:

It wasn't his work permit it was his visa which wasn't approved. A WP and visa are two entirley different things but you need both to play in the UK.

I may be wrong on this but I thought that to work in Britain if you are an Australian national we have an agreement between the two countries that mean if you are sponsored by a british employer for a fixed period and have the correct skills you can get a working visa quite easily provided you are of good character. That means if you have a conviction within a certain length of time (don't know what that is) you are given special consideration. I have no idea what happens if you are awaiting trial during the period for which the visa is to be granted or whether the australian authorities would let you leave the country in the first place.

: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:28 pm  

BOYD2 wrote:

The Giants have the money to sign Bird,but it would be waste of time because he will not be allowed a visa,so dont be getting your hopes up it wont happen.

I'm only going off the news reports it may not be true.

I'm pretty sceptical about this happening myself. I can't honestly see Bird getting off the ground.

I saw a newspaper headline today saying "Bird strike brings down plane" and wondered what he'd been accused of now but it wasn't anything to do with him.

: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:07 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

I may be wrong on this but I thought that to work in Britain if you are an Australian national we have an agreement between the two countries that mean if you are sponsored by a british employer for a fixed period and have the correct skills you can get a working visa quite easily provided you are of good character. That means if you have a conviction within a certain length of time (don't know what that is) you are given special consideration. I have no idea what happens if you are awaiting trial during the period for which the visa is to be granted or whether the australian authorities would let you leave the country in the first place.

That only applies to jobs that are not easily filled by UK nationals.

[Durham Giant]

: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:21 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote
Easy to be all holier than thou when Immigration wouldn't give Todd Carney a Visa and you didn't have the money left to offer Bird (if the report is to be believed). In fact wasn't Todd Carney one of the players that meant your squad was better than ours? Definately aint now.

if you care to check out my views on Bird you will see that i did not want us to sign him - amended Bullpower - - a long time ago before you were even linked with him. I posted that view on the VT and Giants site ages ago.

so there is no holier than thou approach. Nor am i concerned about his criminal behaviour. I just have a big issue with men who hit women. Maybe you do not.

You are welcome to check but hey dont let the facts get in the way.


You will also find that i made a similar point as you have about squad strength two weeks ago. again you can check if you want to rely on facts

: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:23 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

if you care to check out my views on Bird you will see that i did not want us to sign him - BP - a long time ago

If he's found guilty, make all those comments you like. Until then, while he's still innocent by law, that's bang out of order. Do everyone a favour and sod off.

: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:34 pm  

DILLIGAF wrote:

If he's found guilty, make all those comments you like. Until then, while he's still innocent by law, that's bang out of order. Do everyone a favour and sod off.

Agreed. I doubt very much that anyone on here knows what actually happened and is relying on media reports to form their opinions. Whether he joins the Bulls or not.. he shouldn't be labelled as a 'wife beater' when he has yet to be found guilty in court.

[Durham Giant]

: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:38 pm  

Beyond reasonable doubt criminal or balance of probability civil. I have heard a lot from friends in Australia and i am happy to stick by my views great player but bad man.


Anyway i will let you get on with and i will state what i said in my first post .

A great signing for you, good player but dont get your hopes up until he gets here.

Au Revoir

: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:41 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

Beyond reasonable doubt criminal or balance of probability civil. I have heard a lot from friends in Australia and i am happy to stick by my views great player but bad man.

Anyway i will let you get on with and i will state what i said in my first post .

A great signing for you, good player but dont get yoiur hopes up until he gets hers.

Au Revoir

So your friends from Australia are in full receipt of all the facts are they. Or are the more than likely like the rest of us just picking up on what's been in the press.

: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:05 pm  

redeverready wrote:

That only applies to jobs that are not easily filled by UK nationals.

So it's fine in this case then.