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: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:17 pm  
Ferocious Aardvark wrote:
Hey, no need to get all indignant. Your restraint of trade point is an interesting one, but the post I replied to was specifically your claim that the EU Court (sic) overrides any party states national law. This was, of course, dealing with the precise opposite of your previous post which you made clear was talking about the position "irrespective of national laws".


My apologies, to get things straight the EU can override ANY party states national law Including Sovereignty laws. The European court is the highest in the land as the Single European Act of 1972 was enshrined within UK law in 1972. I don't think they would be interested in altering UK visa restrictions without serious cause, however, The EU's anti competition laws are very strict, and binding, and the RFL santioning this move would be considered a restraint of trade on the other 13 Super League club's

I hope this clears the ambiguity up.

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: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:27 pm  
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I hope this clears the ambiguity up.

Have a nice day

It certainly clears up the ambiguity concerning your status as a c*ck.

And you tries the legal joke once and didn't get a bite because it wasn't funny. There was no need to try again.
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: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:32 pm  
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It certainly clears up the ambiguity concerning your status as a c*ck.

And you tries the legal joke once and didn't get a bite because it wasn't funny. There was no need to try again.


Now then small child where was the second legal joke that I Tried?
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: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:42 pm  
cymraegrhino wrote:
My apologies, to get things straight the EU can override ANY party states national law Including Sovereignty laws. The European court is the highest in the land as the Single European Act of 1972 was enshrined within UK law in 1972.


Again, no it cannot. Absolutely not.

The European Court can judicially review a decision of a UK court, and can rule the decision inconsistent with the Treaties. This then means that the UK has to take the necessary action to achieve consistency.

This is NOT overriding national law. The UK Parliament has decided to arrange its affairs in this way, an therefore a decision of a UK Court which is inconsistent with the Treaties is against the will of Parliament, and should not have been made. The European Court's function in judicially reviewing this is to point out the error.

And even then, this state of affairs only subsists because the UK Parliament created it in passing the 1972 Act. If it chose to, it could abolish the Act tomorrow.
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: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:46 pm  
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Again, no it cannot. Absolutely not.

The European Court can judicially review a decision of a UK court, and can rule the decision inconsistent with the Treaties. This then means that the UK has to take the necessary action to achieve consistency.

This is NOT overriding national law. The UK Parliament has decided to arrange its affairs in this way, an therefore a decision of a UK Court which is inconsistent with the Treaties is against the will of Parliament, and should not have been made. The European Court's function in judicially reviewing this is to point out the error.

And even then, this state of affairs only subsists because the UK Parliament created it in passing the 1972 Act. If it chose to, it could abolish the Act tomorrow.


I apologise, if you says thats true I believe you, but to abolish the act would then mean that we would have to give up our status as member state of the European Union.

How do you feel on the restriction of trade issue?
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: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:53 pm  
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... the Single European Act of 1972 was enshrined within UK law in 1972.


Did I miss a piece of important legislation somewhere along the way? I recall the European Communities Act, 1972, being signed - I'm not too young to remember that - but the Single European Act I recall was signed in 1986?

Of course, I'm a beancounter not a lawyer so I could be wrong...
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: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:06 pm  
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Did I miss a piece of important legislation somewhere along the way? I recall the European Communities Act, 1972, being signed - I'm not too young to remember that - but the Single European Act I recall was signed in 1986?

Of course, I'm a beancounter not a lawyer so I could be wrong...


I am too young to remember that so it is probably me that is mcfuddled :!:
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: Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:14 pm  
whats the big deal anyway . :lol:
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: Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:15 pm  
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whats the big deal anyway . :lol:


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