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: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:55 pm  
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One of the worse things is we are sat in the stand and you can predict the mistakes we are going to make.


What's worse is that you can also sit there and predict what plays we'll use!

The speed of the link between hooker and half backs is pedestrian, everyone knows Deacon won't take the line on and from 30 metres out the ball will always go right to the player running the second line, and without a strike centre with a step, a sliding defense can cope with this easily time and again. If that fails it's give it to Jefferies for a short cut back ball to a forward or a Halley run around, or a kick to Menzies. That's our entire play book.

Of course there's always the slow pass from dummy half to a standing forward on halfway to look foward to. Or a long series of slow passes across the line in the middle of the field (Leeds last week) to get everyone shouting about offside due to our lack of pace or penetration making the opposition appear offside.

We need leadership, discipline and composure to be restored, watching McNamara from the Tetley stand when Deacon got injured was an object lesson, he consulted, dithered, danced on the spot, then ran 5 metres to whistle Deacon, who waved and he then dithered again before returning to his spot looking awkward without bringing him off (seemingly his first thought). Does he look like he's in charge, no, does he convey confidence, no, is he likely to inspire confidence, no. And before I get the 20:20 vision comments, the people in front of me have binoculars, and we were interested in whether the bench would act or not.

I have very little interest watching someone who I know can't get us out of this position continue week in and week out to make the same mistakes. Unfortunately I am masochistic enough to keep turning up, others won't, as is evident.
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: Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:37 pm  
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Surprised nobody has mentioned the lack of sending off of Westerman. Should be banned for the rest of the season. He clearly went with shoulder intentionally to back of Deacon's head when laid on the floor.

The ref also missed a professional foul flop after one of our breaks ran (as usual) into the only defender around. The flop was clearly done to stop a quick play the ball.

But overall our inability to tackle and ability to turn clean breaks into nothing were the reasons we lost to a team that played even worse than we did.


Were you the only one to see that then cos I dont know any one else that did? Banned for rest of season Id wake up and smell the coffee. How about a spear tackle by one of our guys on a cas player you need to get a grip.
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: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:29 am  
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Were you the only one to see that then cos I dont know any one else that did? Banned for rest of season Id wake up and smell the coffee. How about a spear tackle by one of our guys on a cas player you need to get a grip.


There was no spear tackles in that match.
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: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:55 am  
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There was no spear tackles in that match.


Np spear tackle that was penalised you mean I saw it with my own 20/20 vision eyes. We can harpe on about decision all we want fact both teams were poor the bulls were just poorer.
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: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:17 am  
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Np spear tackle that was penalised you mean I saw it with my own 20/20 vision eyes. We can harpe on about decision all we want fact both teams were poor the bulls were just poorer.


You don't know what a spear tackle is.

A spear tackle is when a player is lifted above the horizontal and then drilled into the floor.

The unpenalised effort you are referring to on the cas player, was the first part (lifted above horizontal) but then he was let go. This is classed as a dangerous tackle, NOT a spear tackle.

It should have been a penalty. Had it been a "spear tackle", it would have been a red card. Since it wasn't, the only thing you missed out on was a penalty.
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: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:20 am  
Just been thinking I can't remember Wayne Godwin coming back on in the second half again.
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: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:27 am  
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Just been thinking I can't remember Wayne Godwin coming back on in the second half again.


He started the second half and then went off to allow Terry to come back on about half way through it.
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: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:32 am  
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He started the second half and then went off to allow Terry to come back on about half way through it.
Terry came back when Cas scored the third try in the second half which was after about 10 minutes. So in reality we played the second half with only 15 players.
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: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:45 am  
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Np spear tackle that was penalised you mean I saw it with my own 20/20 vision eyes. We can harpe on about decision all we want fact both teams were poor the bulls were just poorer.


Who is harping? Just you I fear.
Yes both teams were poor, the defence was dire. Bulls were in fact a missed conversion poorer.
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: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:07 am  
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Very disappointed we played well once again and came out with nothing I still think we can make the play-offs but we need to be much more consistent its no good winning one game then loosing next three games.


On what planet did were you standign when you watched the game, we in no wy played well, yes a few purple patches in the firts half but to say we played well FFS.

We were gash end of Cas were just a little less gash than us, season is a write off and i think maccas card will be on the table aeeing as playoffs is exteremely unlikely based on that shower yesterday
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