[Bulliac]

Re: Bulls WILL appeal points deduction! : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:09 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

But fewer than in the Wakefield council area.

Seems that it's fairly even in the numbers between Bradford and Calderdale & Kirklees. Not sure some "Bradford" clubs are actually in Bradford like Wyke and Birkenshaw. Drig has a BD11 postcode but is in Kirklees IIRC.

The hotbeds for amateur RL aren't in Bradford.

Wyke is certainly in Bradford though both Birky and Drig, despite BD postcodes, are actually in the Leeds council area - sort of, the opposite of Ilkley, you might say.

Re: Bulls WILL appeal points deduction! : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:10 pm  

moggie wrote:

We are very lucky to have someone like Ken Davy on board who has financially backed us. He has got us to where we are now but has also built up a club who now bring through our own juniors into the first team, attract good sponsorship and are much stronger off the pitch than when he first took over many years ago.

You do realise how much Huddersfield are losing each year at the moment don't you. Your club is in one of the poorest positions in the league in terms of yearly losses.

Re: Bulls WILL appeal points deduction! : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:12 pm  

roger daly wrote:

We need our own Ken,anyone know a Ken that's got a few spare million

Yes you need to get a Ken or Marwan otherwise you're knackered

Re: Bulls WILL appeal points deduction! : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:13 pm  

moggie wrote:

We are very lucky to have someone like Ken Davy on board who has financially backed us. He has got us to where we are now but has also built up a club who now bring through our own juniors into the first team, attract good sponsorship and are much stronger off the pitch than when he first took over many years ago.

So the setting up of your youth system was free, or did that take some of Ken's cash?

Without a wealthy backer, there is no quick fix.

[Bullseye]

Re: Bulls WILL appeal points deduction! : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:14 pm  

moggie wrote:

We started from nothing with no recent success or foundations in place where as you have certain structures and foundations already set up plus a very good fan base. It seems from the outside all Bradford are interested in is a strong team on the pitch and to hell with anything else and that relegation would be the end of the world. You don't need millions to do all this or a sugar daddy type person to sort your club out just someone or a group who have the sole intention in building the club up without the sole intention of being a top club at this present time and being in it for the long haul.

All those great structures and foundations we supposedly have are dependent on an income. Having a millionaire behind you makes all the difference. I could have the best intentions but without the money to make it happen it's pointless.

If we had a Davy behind us I'd have no fear about relegation. Fact is we don't have that. Also I'm of the opinion that the three 8s system is just an illusion of promotion for tier 2 clubs given they're on a lower salary cap.

Re: Bulls WILL appeal points deduction! : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:19 pm  

daveyz999 wrote:

So the setting up of your youth system was free, or did that take some of Ken's cash?

Without a wealthy backer, there is no quick fix.

That's what I'm getting at. You don't and shouldn't want a quick fix.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Bulls WILL appeal points deduction! : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:23 pm  

You are such a worry wort (or is it wart) Bullseye. We just need to drop down a division and rebuild using the tuppence we found down the back of the settee to bank roll our structures. Then straight back up and into the final of the world club challenge.

Re: Bulls WILL appeal points deduction! : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:24 pm  

moggie wrote:

That's what I'm getting at. You don't and shouldn't want a quick fix.

I disagree, staying in SL this year would be a massive quick fix.

Next year we would have record Sky income, and a roster that must be running at about 50% (or even less) of the salary cap.

If we can survive this year, we will have pretty decent foundations to build again.

Dropping down a division would be a different proposition.

Re: Bulls WILL appeal points deduction! : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:29 pm  

moggie wrote:

We started from nothing with no recent success or foundations in place where as you have certain structures and foundations already set up plus a very good fan base. It seems from the outside all Bradford are interested in is a strong team on the pitch and to hell with anything else and that relegation would be the end of the world. You don't need millions to do all this or a sugar daddy type person to sort your club out just someone or a group who have the sole intention in building the club up without the sole intention of being a top club at this present time and being in it for the long haul.

What you are basically doing is making some pious proposal for someone- anyone - in Bradford to start from scratch with some mythical new little organisation without two halfpennies to rub together, and to "build it up" in "the long haul".

And to do this we don't need a sugar daddy type person, just some bloke who, while skint, his heart is in it and is full of "good intentions".

This skint person will nevertheless somehow take on and finance the entire Bulls setup up to academy level, and the very good fan base will forget the Bulls and will all flock to this shoestring outfit. Despite not actually having a team, nor being able to afford one.

Can I ask - if there is such a person, what is the reason they never did any of the above with - say - Dudley Hill, or West Bowling, or some such?

[Bullseye]

Re: Bulls WILL appeal points deduction! : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:40 pm  

moggie wrote:

That's what I'm getting at. You don't and shouldn't want a quick fix.

Davy provided you lot with a quick fix and it took 18 years to get where you are now.

Without Davy's millions I reckon you'd still be at Arena 84 playing as the Barracudas.

Going down would mean we'd have to start from scratch. Without a backer I can't see how we'd be able to afford an academy. We'd not be able to afford to play at Odsal. Why would sponsors want to put their money into such a tinpot operation? They've not exactly been pumping in the millions when we were good.