Re: Absolutely Pathetic : Wed May 28, 2014 7:45 am  

When Ross tweeted yesterday about an interview with Marc Green in today's t&a, I knew straight away it would just be an attempt to drum up some support.
Having now read the article, that's exactly what it is. And not only that, but he's hoping for an attendance of over 10k!

I seriously hope he is aiming high there, and does not realistically expect to see that many people turn up on Sunday.
After that shower of sh*t we witnessed last week he'll be lucky to get a crowd of half that amount.

Re: Absolutely Pathetic : Wed May 28, 2014 8:37 am  

#deluded

Re: Absolutely Pathetic : Wed May 28, 2014 8:41 am  

Mr Green, the fans have seen this coach and team win 3 SL games in the first half of the season and get their backside spanked on a number of occasions. Bradford fans have answered the call and turned up in the past to see our team under perform i can tell you now the line is becoming very thin and you won't get any support if these results carry on.

At this moment in time what have we to offer SL if we stay up !!!

Re: Absolutely Pathetic : Wed May 28, 2014 10:27 am  

The Bradford owner, who bought the club out of administration exactly eight weeks ago, would like to beat the season’s highest attendance of 10,106 who saw the derby clash with Leeds at Easter.

So would we all, but he knows that the reality is a crowd between 5000 - 6000.

“Sunday’s game is arguably Bradford Bulls’ most important since they were winning trophies – and some would say it’s possibly even bigger than that,” said Green.

Green wrote:

I’m aware of the frustrations of the fans but I would urge each and every one of them to make an effort

The 5000 core fans have already decided to make the effort.

The extra 5000+ are NOT people who will EVER pay money to watch if it is an "effort". They are fans who can easily be temptd by attractive fare, and if they think it's worth the money they may well go to a game. At the moment there is zero chance of any non-core fan thinking it is worth the money to watch the very real possibility of another woeful half-hearted humiliation by a bunch of disinterested players dragging their chins around at walking pace, so Mr. Green is wasting his breath. He might as well advertise in Spain for Real Madrid fans to make the trip.

Green wrote:

“I realise fans have walked away in their droves and that they wanted to see the club being run professionally, ethically and with a certain code of conduct.

But the fans have not walked away in their droves. Indeed it is quite astonishing how over 5000 fans will still come even to be served such regular dross.

Green wrote:

“I would like to think that myself and my board have demonstrated that during the past eight weeks, so it would be great to see the whole city get behind the team and create a cauldron of noise.

Speaking for myself, Mr. Green, you have not demonstrated much to me at all. We hardly ever hear a word from you.

We don't know whether the club is being run professionally. How would we be able to judge that? We don't know if the club is being run "ethically". One aspect of ethics is not shafting local businesses who had dealings with the old Bulls. We al know you are not responsible for the debts arising, but nobody has told us whether you intend to pay off all, some or none of the creditors of OKB so on what can we judge?

As for the notion that to get the whole city into Odsal bowl and create a 'cauldron of noise', the thing that would achieve that would be to satisfy the hordes that the club was being run professionally/ ethically etc., really? I mean, when we had the record crowd against Leeds, what percentage thought" Well, the main thing is, the club is being run ethically so I will go"?

Green wrote:

“When we beat Catalan and Warrington at home recently, the support from the fans was outstanding and to get that in bigger numbers would give the players a massive lift as they walk out.

But as you have not directly said a word about their performance of late, why are you not instead urging each and every one of the PLAYERS to make an effort? You say it would give these players a lift. Well, read your coaches comments. He doesn't even know if the players intend to turn up and thinks it quite possible that many of them won't, and if so he says we could well be embarrassed again. Do you feel that is consistent with your message? How many extra fans do you think Cummins' bleak and dispirited condemnation will add to the gate? Was he wrong?

Green wrote:

“If we lose, does that mean we are relegated?

Er, yes. Unless we are already as good as relegated in which case the game is actually meaningless.

Green wrote:

“We will probably be one of several teams to go to Catalan and lose this year – you could name the two or three teams who will go there and win.

Surely you know it's about the performance they put up, and not the result??

Green wrote:

...Francis has had extremely weakened squads during my time at the club....“He has seen the guts ripped out of his team through what happened earlier this year... Francis has been hindered by the injuries we have suffered....lost players to injury...

Everyone knows all this. Those may all be entirely valid reasons for losing games, but that's not the issue. It is the embarrassing "performances" that is the elephant in the room.

Re: Absolutely Pathetic : Wed May 28, 2014 10:33 am  

Nothus wrote:

When Ross tweeted yesterday about an interview with Marc Green in today's t&a, I knew straight away it would just be an attempt to drum up some support.
Having now read the article, that's exactly what it is. And not only that, but he's hoping for an attendance of over 10k!

I seriously hope he is aiming high there, and does not realistically expect to see that many people turn up on Sunday.
After that shower of sh*t we witnessed last week he'll be lucky to get a crowd of half that amount.

So whilst Mr Green is trying to drum up support, the man in charge of the team is "hopeful" that a "handful of players" will put the effort in??????

You really cannot make this up.

Quite simply, we are, and have been for some time, a joke team. We offer absolutely nothing to SL bar to let the majority of other sides in the league get a nice confidence boost and an improvement in their points difference collumn. Effectively, we are like a "bye week" to most of the other sides.

Why should people pay to watch a team that even the coach thinks will not put the effort in? It is an absurd situation to be in.

The situation is so bad that, if you are reading Mr Green, even my good friend Ferocious Aardvark, who for YEARS has been the most positive supporter in the land (ridiculously so at times) is completely and utterly disilliusioned with the club at the moment.

The hardcore support are the people you need to keep onside and all the club is doing is making it worse.

Had we been a racehorse instead of a Bull, we would have been shot long ago.

Re: Absolutely Pathetic : Wed May 28, 2014 10:49 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

...
The situation is so bad that, if you are reading Mr Green, even my good friend Ferocious Aardvark, who for YEARS has been the most positive supporter in the land (ridiculously so at times) is completely and utterly disilliusioned with the club at the moment.
...

I'm not utterly disillusioned. I'll be there against Wakefield, I will cheer and clap the team on to the field as usual and if they put it in I will applaud them off. I call it as I see it, but my support for the club remains.

I can't be disillusioned with Green & Co., as I really have nothing to base a judgment on. I don't know if he has pumped a million in or nothing, we have no clue what -if any - sanctions BBNL got or what - if any - old creditors are to be paid off. We don't know how much distribution money had already gone and what was left for BBNL. We are kept basically pretty much in the dark so can only reserve judgment.

Re: Absolutely Pathetic : Wed May 28, 2014 11:26 am  

Not easy for your supporters at the moment mate, we have been there so many times, what we are hanging on to is, if you beet us and get two points back we are still four in front with the game against London at home the week after. Then hopefully we will be six clear and two more wins should do it, but you never know what may happen at the hearing mate, but chin up

Re: Absolutely Pathetic : Wed May 28, 2014 12:03 pm  

You know things are bad when Marc Green quotes gets the FA disection treatment!

Re: Absolutely Pathetic : Wed May 28, 2014 12:09 pm  

vbfg wrote:

Maybe we're not targeting this one.

If you were a Wigan fan (God forbid) all games that you have a chance of losing are irrelevant 'at this stage in the season'. When Shudds stuffed them first game it had no bearing on the season, when they were expected to get a hammering by Leeds it was a meaningless fixture 'until the business end of the season'. I suggest that approach.

Re: Absolutely Pathetic : Wed May 28, 2014 12:16 pm  

tigertot wrote:

If you were a Wigan fan (God forbid) all games that you have a chance of losing are irrelevant 'at this stage in the season'. When Shudds stuffed them first game it had no bearing on the season, when they were expected to get a hammering by Leeds it was a meaningless fixture 'until the business end of the season'. I suggest that approach.

We all know what business our end of season will look like. A steaming pile of bullbusiness.