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: Mon May 25, 2009 10:12 am  
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Well according to Dave Halley in the T&A the Bulls were "firing on all cylinders at Salford but just couldn’t get those scores.”

It's garbage like this that is hacking fans off even more than the performances, surely the club can see that and should be making sure any interviews given show a bit more savvy, If that was firing on all cylinders they might as well give up.


Worrying like you say if that was firing on all cylinders. The reason we lost Dave is because our attack is one dimensional and slow. We have very few people running off the ball and when we do the pass in invariably a poor one or we throw it to the dummy runner. We needed Deacon/Jeffries/Newton to take control of the game.. but they never did. Salford were depressingly below average but took their chances and got some points on the board.
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Well according to Dave Halley in the T&A the Bulls were "firing on all cylinders at Salford but just couldn’t get those scores.”

It's garbage like this that is hacking fans off even more than the performances, surely the club can see that and should be making sure any interviews given show a bit more savvy, If that was firing on all cylinders they might as well give up.


Worrying like you say if that was firing on all cylinders. The reason we lost Dave is because our attack is one dimensional and slow. We have very few people running off the ball and when we do the pass in invariably a poor one or we throw it to the dummy runner. We needed Deacon/Jeffries/Newton to take control of the game.. but they never did. Salford were depressingly below average but took their chances and got some points on the board.
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: Mon May 25, 2009 10:22 am  
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Well according to Dave Halley in the T&A the Bulls were "firing on all cylinders at Salford but just couldn’t get those scores.”

It's garbage like this that is hacking fans off even more than the performances, surely the club can see that and should be making sure any interviews given show a bit more savvy, If that was firing on all cylinders they might as well give up.


The `interviews` are poor. I don`t know if Dave Craven is actually going round to players and asking for quotes or whether the club is putting the lads up for the daily humiliation.

I wouldn`t want to prevent any player from exercising free speech so if they are being asked by the service crew then fine (though maybe they should think twice before answering),but if it`s a club initiative then Duffers (I assume it`s he) ought to think again because it`s a bad idea.

As for the Salford match, for mine they played quite strongly for much of the game, particularly in defence, and again, for my money they were the better side in most aspects of the game. They crossed the line half a dozen times but didn`t get the ball down every time due to a combination of good defence, bad luck and the odd poor decision (though Salford fans and the few on here who think McNamara is to blame for everything will probably disagree) from a TJ forty odd yards away.

It`s a game they should have won, but they ultimately didn`t deserve to win (though in truth neither did Salford), dropping far too much ball and one bad defensive error (after a great chase) which gave away six points in a tight game. Firing on all cylinders? I think not.
Asim wrote:
Well according to Dave Halley in the T&A the Bulls were "firing on all cylinders at Salford but just couldn’t get those scores.”

It's garbage like this that is hacking fans off even more than the performances, surely the club can see that and should be making sure any interviews given show a bit more savvy, If that was firing on all cylinders they might as well give up.


The `interviews` are poor. I don`t know if Dave Craven is actually going round to players and asking for quotes or whether the club is putting the lads up for the daily humiliation.

I wouldn`t want to prevent any player from exercising free speech so if they are being asked by the service crew then fine (though maybe they should think twice before answering),but if it`s a club initiative then Duffers (I assume it`s he) ought to think again because it`s a bad idea.

As for the Salford match, for mine they played quite strongly for much of the game, particularly in defence, and again, for my money they were the better side in most aspects of the game. They crossed the line half a dozen times but didn`t get the ball down every time due to a combination of good defence, bad luck and the odd poor decision (though Salford fans and the few on here who think McNamara is to blame for everything will probably disagree) from a TJ forty odd yards away.

It`s a game they should have won, but they ultimately didn`t deserve to win (though in truth neither did Salford), dropping far too much ball and one bad defensive error (after a great chase) which gave away six points in a tight game. Firing on all cylinders? I think not.
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: Mon May 25, 2009 10:19 pm  
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When Sharpe was in charge Hudders had one decent run of form but where is he now? ...


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: Mon May 25, 2009 10:24 pm  
mystic eddie wrote:
The problem is that this kind of comment is being made week in and week out yet Mr McNamara is incapable of understanding that actions speak louder than words.


How dumb a remark is that?

"is incapable of understanding that actions speak louder than words!, FFS!

In what way is he "incapable" of understanding this?

Your remark doesn't actually mean anything, does it!?

If you are looking for the meaning of life and a universal theory of everything in quotes from sports managers, I think you're always going to be disapppointed. WTF do you expect?

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that this kind of comment is being made week in and week out

So HE can't say the same thing week in, week out, yet YOU can say the same thing, a hundred times a day, all year, 24/7.

Hardly seems fair.
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: Mon May 25, 2009 10:36 pm  
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Worrying like you say if that was firing on all cylinders. The reason we lost Dave is because our attack is one dimensional and slow. We have very few people running off the ball and when we do the pass in invariably a poor one or we throw it to the dummy runner. We needed Deacon/Jeffries/Newton to take control of the game.. but they never did. Salford were depressingly below average but took their chances and got some points on the board.


Did you go? As our attack got over the Salford line at least 7 times, I'd say Halley's got a point? If our attack is "one dimensional and slow", how did that happen?

I also don't think Salford were "depressingly below average". They rode their luck, with all those missed chances by us, but deserve some credit because they played some good stuff too, and scored some useful tries.
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: Mon May 25, 2009 10:53 pm  
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Did you go? As our attack got over the Salford line at least 7 times, I'd say Halley's got a point? If our attack is "one dimensional and slow", how did that happen?

I also don't think Salford were "depressingly below average". They rode their luck, with all those missed chances by us, but deserve some credit because they played some good stuff too, and scored some useful tries.


Come off it, with the amount of possession we had, we should have been 16-20 points ahead. The fact we didn't wasn't down to Salford being brilliant (no disrespect, they deserved the victory) but us dropping passes, taking the wrong option etc etc.

I personally don't think it is a lack of effort, I think the players are trying....only they aren't capable of it consistently. Once every few weeks is not enough. I was at Salford and I'll be there against Wakey and for the rest...but it's time for some honesty. Bradford are not very good.
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: Tue May 26, 2009 12:21 am  
Johnoco wrote:
Come off it,

Come off what?

Johnoco wrote:
...with the amount of possession we had, we should have been 16-20 points ahead.

Yes.

Johnoco wrote:
The fact we didn't wasn't down to Salford being brilliant (no disrespect, they deserved the victory) but us dropping passes, taking the wrong option etc etc.

Yes. All of which I have said. In detail.

Johnoco wrote:
I personally don't think it is a lack of effort, I think the players are trying....only they aren't capable of it consistently.

Well, they certainly haven't been capable of consistency this year. As for trying, the big problem with what you say is, it's not what the players say. When the players admit that not all of them played 100% then you have to accept that as fact.

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Once every few weeks is not enough. I was at Salford and I'll be there against Wakey and for the rest...but it's time for some honesty. Bradford are not very good.

What "honesty"? I mean, do you believe that there is anyone who thinks the second-bottom team could possibly be described as "very good"? I don't.
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: Tue May 26, 2009 6:11 am  
Ferocious Aardvark wrote:
So HE can't say the same thing week in, week out, yet YOU can say the same thing, a hundred times a day, all year, 24/7.

Hardly seems fair.


And I can't have a pop at McNamara for being repetitive yet YOU can say the same to me?

Hardly seems fair either does it?
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: Tue May 26, 2009 7:22 am  
MacNamara's never been particularly good at the media side of things. Some people aren't. Of the many concerns I've got at the moment regarding the Bulls, the quality of the coach's interviews come way down the list.
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: Tue May 26, 2009 8:41 am  
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He's busily rehearsing his role as Imhotep in The Mummy III


would have been funny except imhotep isnt in mummy 3 ;)
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