[Bullseye]

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:20 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

Apologies if I've missed this somewhere but another point discussed was the move to 1 reserve grade to mirror the NRL system, the club are confident they have the right plans in place to maximise junior talent potential and see it (as the RFL do) as a means to strengthen all professional levels of the sport with SL-NL club link ups through dual player registrations

Aye just remembered that bit. U20s likely from next year. Medley said there were pros and cons to the idea and details yet to be thrashed out.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:24 pm  

AndreaB wrote:

In a sense he's more important than that. He's in charge of building our future squads.

I'm old enough to know Medley from him being a junior & how he stood out then as an intelligent, articulate type. What I was sarcastically suggesting is perhaps the first team could do with some of his motivational speeches (if the effects of last night are anything to go by).

[Bullseye]

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:27 pm  

tigertot wrote:

I'm old enough to know Medley from him being a junior & how he stood out then as an intelligent, articulate type. What I was sarcastically suggesting is perhaps the first team could do with some of his motivational speeches (if the effects of last night are anything to go by).

Well I was ready to turn out for Medders last night

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:17 pm  

redeverready wrote:

One thing on the OSV that seems to have been missed is the 2012 finish date isn't for the whole site. It's for the stadium which includes the access road and car parks and the hotel which will hopefully finished early 2012.

An old mate of mine who is a civil engineer and has worked on a couple of recent football stadium projects told me that filling in the bowl would add at least 9 months to the project. He reckoned the stadium and access roads would take nearly 3 years and that didnt allow for hotels.

They'll need to start digging soon to hit 2012.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:24 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

An old mate of mine who is a civil engineer and has worked on a couple of recent football stadium projects told me that filling in the bowl would add at least 9 months to the project. He reckoned the stadium and access roads would take nearly 3 years and that didnt allow for hotels.

They'll need to start digging soon to hit 2012.

I know one of the engineers working on OSV feasibility & he was unaware it is proceeding.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:41 pm  

tigertot wrote:

I'm old enough to know Medley from him being a junior & how he stood out then as an intelligent, articulate type. What I was sarcastically suggesting is perhaps the first team could do with some of his motivational speeches (if the effects of last night are anything to go by).

One of the most interesting sporting interviews I've heard was when he spoke to Radio Leeds about his career. I particularly remember him discussing differing attitudes to league and union players. He recalled the time he toured Aus with GB. At the time he was employed by NatWest as was the England RU captain (?Harrison) who was also on tour. Harrison was treated by a hero by the bank, given full time off with pay. Medders was told he had to use up his holiday entitlement and then take time off without pay. When Medders queried the different treatment he was told that it was because he was a professional. Medders pointed out that during the ru tour Harrison was being paid a daily alllowance which was greater than the league players were earning! Didnt do him any good

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:03 pm  

Duckman wrote:

Im not surprised there was not too much discussion about what happen if OSV does not happen if we are that confident as a club about it progressing. And I hope the confidence is well placed, we've been here before however, although there does seem to be more substance and support for this one than previous schemes... there is still a part of me which wont belive it until I have a new shiny roof over my head whilst watching from the new stands.

I agree we'll get no staduim points on the next licence if we've not started the build, presumamably same goes for Cas, Wakey, Saints, Salford, etc. Lots of plans along the M62, hope there is not a shortage of JCB's in 2010 as a result . But even with no stadium points Im sure our licence would be renewed, only C holders will be at any risk next time IMHO. The RFL would be sensible if they asked new applicants and C holders to do full submissions and A/B holders to do trimmed ones.... so that probably wont happen

Also if the applications for C are brought forward it would be interesting for all C holders and new applicants, still a way off that though IMO.

IIRC we had 7 points last time? And 5-7 = B License?

If no stadium progress and IF we finish outside top 8 this year and next year and if crowds stay at this sort of level (heaven forbid to both) then we'd gain 1 point for no cap breaches, lose 1 for crowds less than 10k, lose another for stadium less than 40% full and probably lose another for not being in top 8 on average (the criterion about making a positive contribution to the competition, where they indicate this is how they would likely judge that. That would mean 5 points and still a B License - just - I presume. So on that basis, and provided the goalposts not moved, you'd hope we would be safe.

My concern always remains that if enough of the current C-graders/aspirants continue to do well on the park, and if they get their new/upgraded stadia out of the blocks, we could conceivably find ourselves in a big scrum with them. What price then for the RFL saying they'd rather have a development area new club than than one in the middle of a load of other top-flight clubs geographically?

Get the OSV moving and we are a nailed-on A or B License and ought to be well safe under the current criteria.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:35 pm  

What was the question and answers and 'disagreement' about Johnny Horton?

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:30 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

An old mate of mine who is a civil engineer and has worked on a couple of recent football stadium projects told me that filling in the bowl would add at least 9 months to the project. He reckoned the stadium and access roads would take nearly 3 years and that didnt allow for hotels.

They'll need to start digging soon to hit 2012.

The riverside stadium which was built in no mans land only took 32 weeks to complete. Even the bigger Ashburton Grove (Emirates) was completed in 18 months.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:33 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

Apologies if I've missed this somewhere but another point discussed was the move to 1 reserve grade to mirror the NRL system, the club are confident they have the right plans in place to maximise junior talent potential and see it (as the RFL do) as a means to strengthen all professional levels of the sport with SL-NL club link ups through dual player registrations

It's a strange idea the RFL have proposed that's why I asked the question if the club were happy with the idea.