Re: Giants and Wigan battle for Bateman : Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:09 pm  

Stul wrote:

It's quite possible that the club gave Bateman permission to talk to Wigan before a fee was agreed. Bateman agrees terms (last Friday) but the clubs don't agree a fee until yesterday.

As long as we got a good fee it's good business. If he don't want to be here and has requested multiple times to leave (his mate Elliot probably in his ear). He's flattered to deceive, A good player but certainly no world beater. By his age, Sam Burgess & Andy Farrell were quantum leaps above where he'll ever be. He's too small to be a great forward and will be a run of the mill super league player (if this backfires I will be happy to congratulate the lad and eat humble pie by the spoonful...cos he's certainly got talent)

Re: Giants and Wigan battle for Bateman : Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:47 pm  

I heard 2 or 3 month back that FC suspended Bateman because he got caught driving when he didn't have a licence.I don't know if this is definately true,it may or may not be.I didn't put it on here at the time because negative gossip is not needed.With today's developments I'm wondering if this is true and this is one of the reasons Bateman and Cummins didn't get on.

If somebody in the know says all this is a load of tripe I will be happy to accept that

Re: Giants and Wigan battle for Bateman : Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:41 pm  

bullinenemyland wrote:

Take time to read my post properly and then get back to me when you find where I say that the bad vibes are convincing fans to stay away!!!

and what is the last comment aimed at??? I was making the point that you support a club because you're passionate about the team and not just the glory.

Yeah, I misread that bit.

You were making the point that the fans who aren't in your elite club should leave the real supporters in peace. Don't buy into this 'true fans' rubbish. The club needs its supporters regardless of why they want to watch the bulls.

I've not bought a season ticket yet, and I probably won't this year. I don't really care if you think I am a true fan or not but I feel telling me to feck off is a bit harsh tbh. We all want the same for the club at the end of the day, doesn't mean we have to defend every decision the club makes.

Re: Giants and Wigan battle for Bateman : Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:56 pm  

Not too disappointed, my concern was he was getting injury prone also noted by Wigan but they feel they can overcome that with a new training regime for him, best of luck on that score. Also a big silence from the NRL Clubs who were looking at him in 2011 as a potential player, I think they also have had doubts about him, picking up injuries the way he has.
In light of that and that he wants out, good business by the Club he was also becoming disruptive looking at some the silly stuff on twitter. We were all upset at Fielden leaving for Wigan but he never set the world on fire from then on. I'm not going to get all upset and hysterical (like the Taliban muppets) just accept that its a done deal and move on and keep supporting the Club!!

Re: Giants and Wigan battle for Bateman : Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:02 am  

Great potential that may or not develop. Serious injuries that may or not affect his full recovery. Could be good business for Bulls.
To the people that have not already bought their season ticket I say - think about whether it is your fault he has gone.

Re: Giants and Wigan battle for Bateman : Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:59 am  

How many games did he play last year, and like has said I've never watched a game and thought damn wish Bateman was here, when he played LF he gave to many penalties away, his seems FC is in tilling his own culture on the club and ew and jb didn't like it as seen by their twitter over the past season leaking information about wages when they would have been told to keep quite about it and other things Ive seen.

The number of front rowers Wigan have signed recently is means he won't be first choice, can't see him ahead of farrel and the youngsters they have. and if he thinks he can get away with abit more he is in for a huge rude awakening

Re: Giants and Wigan battle for Bateman : Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:10 am  

This isn't just about Bateman. There is a bigger issue here that also involves whitehead, naughton and kopout. They are all promising home grown talent who have chosen to leave the club in the last year. I have now lost ALL respect for Cummins and the rest of the management. I am a REAL fan but I can't keep throwing my hard earned at something I don't believe in anymore

Re: Giants and Wigan battle for Bateman : Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:09 am  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

Yeah, I misread that bit.

You were making the point that the fans who aren't in your elite club should leave the real supporters in peace. Don't buy into this 'true fans' rubbish. The club needs its supporters regardless of why they want to watch the bulls.

I've not bought a season ticket yet, and I probably won't this year. I don't really care if you think I am a true fan or not but I feel telling me to feck off is a bit harsh tbh. We all want the same for the club at the end of the day, doesn't mean we have to defend every decision the club makes.

Again, read my post properly. I clearly say fair play to fans that don't buy season tickets for genuine understandable reasons, such as not affording them, not attending enough games etc etc.

However, I am sorry but if you've not bought one simply because you don't agree with what is going on at Odsal then I don't think you are a true fan.

In some way those that have chosen to not support the club by investing money in a ST at a time where there is little cash flow have probably contributed towards the club having to back down at the transfer request at this time, yet those same "fans" will cry and shout for blood when ultimately if they had dipped into their pockets (assuming they could) and splashed their cash it might not have even happened.

My so called elite are people who whilst not agreeing to everything that goes on will still turn up week in week out and support the guys that pull on the RAB. We don't constantly harp on about playoffs and winning trophies, everything happens in cycles and we've had our turn at glory. Chances are that if the club survive we will see triumph again. However we won't if we chase something that we simply cannot afford.

Bateman going is no worry to me. Some are making this out to be a crisis and its simply not... its good business. If more players go before season I might not agree with the decisions and I might even comment that I think its a bad call but will that stop me buying another ST, or buying a shirt for next season? Hell no!!!

More than any other club, this one seems to have a section of fans who are quick to turn on the club they claim to support. My honest truth is i'd rather be a championship club, with a smaller fan base who supported the club no matter what than the predicament we find ourselves in.

I find it hard that many seem intent on inflicting harm (no matter if it is intended) on the club, but as a fan I'll have to put up with it and hope that some day the noise will quieten enough that we can actually get back to enjoying the game.

Sorry if you feel aggrieved by my comments but this is the club i've loved for many years and it pains me to see it in this situation.

Re: Giants and Wigan battle for Bateman : Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:30 am  

Ruggy wrote:

Get a grip you fecking child.

You'd have been better telling that to your John.

Re: Giants and Wigan battle for Bateman : Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:09 am  

We've had a few forwards who have been tipped as the next big thing. Graham Joyce, James Donaldson, lee radford. They all didn't quite fulfill their potential because they missed out on that late growth spurt that can make all the difference. I always thought that radford would have been absolutely world class if he was 2 inches taller and 2 stone heavier. I think the same might apply to Bateman.