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Re: Hull KR vs. Bradford Bulls - Game thread : Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:34 am  
Can't fault the effort of the players this week, and in the current situation thats all you really hope for. And realistically we're not winning another game until the ownership is sorted and 3 or 4 players are brought in somehow.
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Re: Hull KR vs. Bradford Bulls - Game thread : Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:07 am  
Thought the spirit shown by the lads was superb, especially in the second half - goal line defence was awesome at times.

We were never going to win after losing two forwards in the first quarter. We were not only short of forwards before the game even began but we were then also then down to just two interchanges for three quarters of the match.

Both sides lost quite a bit of ball which, I guess, must be largely put down to the wet conditions, though that said, we certainly didn't create much but without some more 'beef' in the pack we were always on the back foot and never gave the halves any space to work in. Same with the kicks, Gale kept finding the man but never had a chance put his head up and look, to be fair.

Big respect to the lads for not giving it up, the determination to keep them out was obvious and heartening. I'd suspect that the Rovers coach was more disappointed with his team's performance than Franny - 60 minutes with the Bulls down to 2 subs and they only got 4 points?
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Re: Hull KR vs. Bradford Bulls - Game thread : Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:51 am  
Some stats to chew on.

Donaldson, second in top tackler list and marker tackles,
Donaldson, second for missed tackles,
Addy, third for missed tackles,
Henry, fifth for missed tackles.

Bulls:
Second for tackles made,
First for missed tackles,
Last for metres made,
Last for average gain,
Last for clean breaks,
Ninth for penalties conceded,
Joint first errors (80) with Hull KR and Hull FC.
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Re: Hull KR vs. Bradford Bulls - Game thread : Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:05 am  
hindle xiii wrote:
Some stats to chew on.

Donaldson, second in top tackler list and marker tackles,
Donaldson, second for missed tackles,
Addy, third for missed tackles,
Henry, fifth for missed tackles.

Bulls:
Second for tackles made,
First for missed tackles,
Last for metres made,
Last for average gain,
Last for clean breaks,
Ninth for penalties conceded,
Joint first errors (80) with Hull KR and Hull FC.


If it is just based on number of tackles then I don't think that tells you much. All it suggests, without percentage missed, is that we made alot of tackles doing large amounts of defending and therefore missed more than everyone else numberswise as a consequence.
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Re: Hull KR vs. Bradford Bulls - Game thread : Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:50 am  
Ordered by percentage missed:

+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| nickname | SUM(pp.TK) | SUM(pp.MI) | PERC_MISSED |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| WAK      |       1749 |        199 |     11.3779 |
| BRA      |       1974 |        205 |     10.3850 |
| CAT      |       1819 |        188 |     10.3353 |
| HKR      |       1799 |        172 |      9.5609 |
| LON      |       1933 |        184 |      9.5189 |
| SAL      |       1945 |        180 |      9.2545 |
| LEE      |       1977 |        172 |      8.7001 |
| HFC      |       1551 |        133 |      8.5751 |
| CAS      |       1708 |        129 |      7.5527 |
| WAR      |       1897 |        142 |      7.4855 |
| STH      |       1674 |        122 |      7.2879 |
| HUD      |       1938 |        139 |      7.1723 |
| WID      |       1299 |         93 |      7.1594 |
| WIG      |       1529 |        101 |      6.6056 |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
Ordered by percentage missed:

+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| nickname | SUM(pp.TK) | SUM(pp.MI) | PERC_MISSED |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| WAK      |       1749 |        199 |     11.3779 |
| BRA      |       1974 |        205 |     10.3850 |
| CAT      |       1819 |        188 |     10.3353 |
| HKR      |       1799 |        172 |      9.5609 |
| LON      |       1933 |        184 |      9.5189 |
| SAL      |       1945 |        180 |      9.2545 |
| LEE      |       1977 |        172 |      8.7001 |
| HFC      |       1551 |        133 |      8.5751 |
| CAS      |       1708 |        129 |      7.5527 |
| WAR      |       1897 |        142 |      7.4855 |
| STH      |       1674 |        122 |      7.2879 |
| HUD      |       1938 |        139 |      7.1723 |
| WID      |       1299 |         93 |      7.1594 |
| WIG      |       1529 |        101 |      6.6056 |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
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Re: Hull KR vs. Bradford Bulls - Game thread : Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:02 pm  
vbfg wrote:
Ordered by percentage missed:

+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| nickname | SUM(pp.TK) | SUM(pp.MI) | PERC_MISSED |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| WAK      |       1749 |        199 |     11.3779 |
| BRA      |       1974 |        205 |     10.3850 |
| CAT      |       1819 |        188 |     10.3353 |
| HKR      |       1799 |        172 |      9.5609 |
| LON      |       1933 |        184 |      9.5189 |
| SAL      |       1945 |        180 |      9.2545 |
| LEE      |       1977 |        172 |      8.7001 |
| HFC      |       1551 |        133 |      8.5751 |
| CAS      |       1708 |        129 |      7.5527 |
| WAR      |       1897 |        142 |      7.4855 |
| STH      |       1674 |        122 |      7.2879 |
| HUD      |       1938 |        139 |      7.1723 |
| WID      |       1299 |         93 |      7.1594 |
| WIG      |       1529 |        101 |      6.6056 |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+

Pedantically, it'd need to be TK+MI=Attempted Tackles. MI/AT x100
vbfg wrote:
Ordered by percentage missed:

+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| nickname | SUM(pp.TK) | SUM(pp.MI) | PERC_MISSED |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| WAK      |       1749 |        199 |     11.3779 |
| BRA      |       1974 |        205 |     10.3850 |
| CAT      |       1819 |        188 |     10.3353 |
| HKR      |       1799 |        172 |      9.5609 |
| LON      |       1933 |        184 |      9.5189 |
| SAL      |       1945 |        180 |      9.2545 |
| LEE      |       1977 |        172 |      8.7001 |
| HFC      |       1551 |        133 |      8.5751 |
| CAS      |       1708 |        129 |      7.5527 |
| WAR      |       1897 |        142 |      7.4855 |
| STH      |       1674 |        122 |      7.2879 |
| HUD      |       1938 |        139 |      7.1723 |
| WID      |       1299 |         93 |      7.1594 |
| WIG      |       1529 |        101 |      6.6056 |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+

Pedantically, it'd need to be TK+MI=Attempted Tackles. MI/AT x100
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Re: Hull KR vs. Bradford Bulls - Game thread : Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:04 pm  
Yeah, let's pretend that didn't happen.

+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| nickname | SUM(pp.TK) | SUM(pp.MI) | PERC_MISSED |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| WAK      |       1749 |        199 |     10.2156 |
| BRA      |       1974 |        205 |      9.4080 |
| CAT      |       1819 |        188 |      9.3672 |
| HKR      |       1799 |        172 |      8.7265 |
| LON      |       1933 |        184 |      8.6915 |
| SAL      |       1945 |        180 |      8.4706 |
| LEE      |       1977 |        172 |      8.0037 |
| HFC      |       1551 |        133 |      7.8979 |
| CAS      |       1708 |        129 |      7.0223 |
| WAR      |       1897 |        142 |      6.9642 |
| STH      |       1674 |        122 |      6.7929 |
| HUD      |       1938 |        139 |      6.6923 |
| WID      |       1299 |         93 |      6.6810 |
| WIG      |       1529 |        101 |      6.1963 |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
Yeah, let's pretend that didn't happen.

+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| nickname | SUM(pp.TK) | SUM(pp.MI) | PERC_MISSED |
+----------+------------+------------+-------------+
| WAK      |       1749 |        199 |     10.2156 |
| BRA      |       1974 |        205 |      9.4080 |
| CAT      |       1819 |        188 |      9.3672 |
| HKR      |       1799 |        172 |      8.7265 |
| LON      |       1933 |        184 |      8.6915 |
| SAL      |       1945 |        180 |      8.4706 |
| LEE      |       1977 |        172 |      8.0037 |
| HFC      |       1551 |        133 |      7.8979 |
| CAS      |       1708 |        129 |      7.0223 |
| WAR      |       1897 |        142 |      6.9642 |
| STH      |       1674 |        122 |      6.7929 |
| HUD      |       1938 |        139 |      6.6923 |
| WID      |       1299 |         93 |      6.6810 |
| WIG      |       1529 |        101 |      6.1963 |
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Re: Hull KR vs. Bradford Bulls - Game thread : Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:06 pm  
vbfg wrote:
Yeah, let's pretend that didn't happen.
I think we could say that many a time for the Bradford Bulls.
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Re: Hull KR vs. Bradford Bulls - Game thread : Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:11 pm  
Also, I think SL (or whoever) add up the number of tackles made by players for the team, irrespective of how many are in each tackle.
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Re: Hull KR vs. Bradford Bulls - Game thread : Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:13 pm  
That's what I'm doing there. It's added up from their individual Opta stats which I rip off the SL site on a Monday morning.
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