Re: OT - In/Out : Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:09 am  

atomic wrote:

Democratic decision.

Yes, indeed it IS a democratic decision and one that we have to respect.

Sadly though, I live in Scotland and our leading party do not understand a democratic decision and will now push for a second Indyref that they will probably win.

Therefore, I have been shafted twice by the English and Welsh voters today. I have always wanted to remain in both the UK and Europe. The vote south and south west of the border has shaped my own country's destiny. The Freedom Fighters will be delighted.

As for Northern Ireland? The Sinn Fein will be sharpening their pencils as I write.

The Welsh have made their bed. Scotland will go, NI faces a very uncertain future and the Union is now a two-team league.

The eurosceptics have effectively ended the Union.

Re: OT - In/Out : Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:12 am  

atomic wrote:

Or didn't know which way to vote.Welcome to democracy.

Precisely. I assume that 28% includes those who spoiled their ballot papers.

If you didn't vote because you just couldn't be bothered, you don't deserve to have a vote. However those who genuinely didn't know and thought it best to leave it to people who were more knowledgable, therefore turned up to the polling station and spoiled their paper or didn't tick a box, I have respect for.

If I was sat with a bomb disposal expert in front of a load of C4, I think I'd be happy to not have a say in which wire he cuts (yes, I've watched too much TV, but the point remains).

Re: OT - In/Out : Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:37 am  

Spoilt papers aren't counted so they're effectively in the "did not vote" column.

Re: OT - In/Out : Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:46 am  

HamsterChops wrote:

Do I feel it's the correct decision? No. I voted Remain, and I will still insist the vote is massively disappointing.
But am I comfortable with a lot of Remain campaigners now declaring everyone racists and imbeciles? Also no.
I know plenty who voted Leave with perfectly good intentions and shouldn't be labelled as such. To say it's a victory for racists is IMO incredibly offensive to those people and shows a complete lack of class.

I would say every single person I have spoken to voted out mainly due to a dislike/fear of immigrants & immigration, & an attitude of superiority over other countries, especially those from poorer &/or more desperate states, or a hostility to being told what to do by forriners (preferring being dictated to by an Eton Oxbridge elite). This board has been an exemplar of respect & good debate.
At the moment I don't give a toss if people find that offensive. I will be ok, I am well paid & well qualified, I have a relatively good pension, I can take my skills elesewhere. But I fear terribly for my country, for my class & particularly for my friends' & family's children. As this country descends even further who will get the blame & who will be left to stand up for them?

Re: OT - In/Out : Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:53 am  

That was the easy bit, now Article 50 has to implemented for the long and probably painful kiss goodbye!

The only people hurting are those of us living outside the UK seeing income shrink for the time being, but for me worth it to get out and back to normality eventually

Re: OT - In/Out : Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:56 am  

Blotto wrote:

The only people hurting are those of us living outside the UK seeing income shrink for the time being, but for me worth it to get out and back to normality eventually

TBH, I have oft questioned you, but this is a shocker even for you.

What an absolutely ridiculous and crass statement. You should be utterly ashamed of yourself.

[Bulliac]

Re: OT - In/Out : Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:06 am  

Highlander wrote:

I hate the voting system in our country. 36.8% voted to leave, 35.1% voted to stay, 28% didn't vote.
So on that basis, we are leaving the EU on the decision of 36.8% of the country.

This is exactly the same way we form our governments, so is hardly a surprise.

One thing which constantly baffles me about my fellow members of the working class is why, when they want to kick those in charge they always vote for the far right.

Re: OT - In/Out : Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:09 am  

I wonder how many people who wanted to kick Cameron in the teeth are happy at the prospect of a Johnson/Gove administration?

Re: OT - In/Out : Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:12 am  

Ironically Europe is one election where there is some proportionality for those who have bothered to vote. Even if you end up with racist crack pots.

Re: OT - In/Out : Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:24 am  

For the high profile TV presenters amongst us. When you sniff coke off the tits of a prostitute in the employ of the News of the World, this is where it ultimately ends up.

Angus Deayton. This is all your fault.

Read and take notes, Mick.