Re: Big Nige : Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:06 am  

Mirfieldbull wrote:

So the thread regarding the Tribunal case is locked because of the kitchen troll, so thought I'd comment here, as it concerns big Nige at the RFL and the current Bulls organization, but the T&A reported that the case also names the Secretary of State of Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy as someone who they are claiming against.

Now I thought I understood most of this having stood on both sides at different tribunals (100% success rate so far!) and the rules of TUPE, but this gets more bizarre. I know the government gets blamed for most things, but really can't see why they are responsible for not paying 39 members of staff at Bradford Bulls. Anyone any ideas, apart from this statement that the government are involved confirms a massive conspiracy

I think I remember Alex Mellor tweeting something regarding .GOV or HMRC or something like that being useless regarding redundancy payment after liquidation. I would presume the government has something in place for paying workers wages when they have worked a month and the company goes bust not paying anyone.

Guess we'll see who pays what. Sure Green won't have to pay a penny though.

Re: Big Nige : Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:10 am  

Sdministrators report is here: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Haven't read it all as it's just too depressing and just makes me angry at what went on. But according to the report, the two bids were rejected by the administrator as they weren't good enough for creditors and also the RFL did in fact by the assets of the club (E.G. name, logo etc) for £60,000.

Sdministrators report is here: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Haven't read it all as it's just too depressing and just makes me angry at what went on. But according to the report, the two bids were rejected by the administrator as they weren't good enough for creditors and also the RFL did in fact by the assets of the club (E.G. name, logo etc) for £60,000.

Re: Big Nige : Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:13 am  

Re Insolvency Service, this'll be it: https://www.gov.uk/your-rights-if-your- ... wed-to-you

Re Insolvency Service, this'll be it: https://www.gov.uk/your-rights-if-your- ... wed-to-you

Re: Big Nige : Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:51 am  

Bull Mania wrote: Sdministrators report is here: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Haven't read it all as it's just too depressing and just makes me angry at what went on. But according to the report, the two bids were rejected by the administrator as they weren't good enough for creditors and also the RFL did in fact by the assets of the club (E.G. name, logo etc) for £60,000. And the bids that were good enough for the administrator, were contingent on the RFL & council doing a deal for the land which was acceptable to all parties. Which therefore failed. And another bid was accepted by the administrator but rejected by the RFL as they wouldn't accept staying in Championship. The bid was dependent on starting in C1. So the administrator could only look at bids which accepted starting in Championship with a 12point penalty and had no upfront interest in the land. Does kind of limit his options I suppose.

Bull Mania wrote: Sdministrators report is here: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Haven't read it all as it's just too depressing and just makes me angry at what went on. But according to the report, the two bids were rejected by the administrator as they weren't good enough for creditors and also the RFL did in fact by the assets of the club (E.G. name, logo etc) for £60,000. And the bids that were good enough for the administrator, were contingent on the RFL & council doing a deal for the land which was acceptable to all parties. Which therefore failed. And another bid was accepted by the administrator but rejected by the RFL as they wouldn't accept staying in Championship. The bid was dependent on starting in C1. So the administrator could only look at bids which accepted starting in Championship with a 12point penalty and had no upfront interest in the land. Does kind of limit his options I suppose.

Re: Big Nige : Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:56 am  

As someone said earlier good to talk about this as talking rugby is so depressing!!!

Just had a quick scan of the liquidators last report, a couple of things struck me

1. Under point 5.9 he states the RFL started an unauthorized bidding process for the assets left from the liquidation, doesn't reflect well on the governing body in showing they were working to their own agenda in isolation from the administrator, especially as they had the final say over potential owners.
2. In 8.7, he confirms that the books showed they owed £1.091m when the end came, but subsequent claims from creditors increased that sum to £2.448m, including a substantial claim from the directors not previously recorded. Anyone any idea why Green would do that when he knows the money had run out, I don't get it

Re: Big Nige : Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:59 am  

thepimp007 wrote:

Didn;t this meeting take place at cue gardens, with a supposed RFL employee in attendance?

I thought I remembered they met as a group in Cue Gardens then went to the Coral Stand for the meeting. If they did the administrator had to be involved to approve opening up

Re: Big Nige : Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:26 pm  

Mirfieldbull wrote:

I thought I remembered they met as a group in Cue Gardens then went to the Coral Stand for the meeting. If they did the administrator had to be involved to approve opening up

Either way I still wish Thorne had got it as we would be top of the league I genuinely believe that

Re: Big Nige : Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:00 pm  

Wasn't they a rumour that Thorne wanted to move us to Coventry?

Re: Big Nige : Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:24 pm  

thepimp007 wrote:

Either way I still wish Thorne had got it as we would be top of the league I genuinely believe that

If Thorne had got us they'd be less excuses for us given they would have had a U.K. Based legal entity, bank etc., etc., so we could have signed players quicker and easier than under the RFL imposed solution of 2 guys from overseas with no infrastructure in the U.K. To support a rapid improvement/turnaround plan.

Re: Big Nige : Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:31 pm  

thepimp007 wrote:

Either way I still wish Thorne had got it as we would be top of the league I genuinely believe that

Perhaps.

But I'm still relieved that he didn't take over the club. It's a 2hr 28 minute drive from Odsal to Ricoh Arena. That's a bit too far for most of us to attend a home game.