Re: Winding up order ? : Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:30 pm  

hindle xiii wrote:

But it's all we had. Come 1st September 2012, Guilfoyle was going to liquidate the club so he didn't have to find money for that month's wages.

You do realise Guilfoyle was threatening to wrap the club up so his associates could have the spotlight taken off them? The RFL would never have allowed that to happen given it's financial investment into the lease at Odsal.The tactic worked, because there has hardly been a murmur about the £400k that disappeared & the RFL has shied away from looking into the mess. That's because they know that can of worms is best left unopened.

I don't know these, I didn't know the last board, I see them both as suits at the top table. I believe what the current board say in the same way the I believed what the last did. Not because I'm gullible, but because that's all there is and in a way that doesn't matter to the majority of fans, most won't 'care' to find the difference between the truth and what we're told, they want the club to do well and are happy with the frontage, the facade, the spoonfed nature.

And that is exactly what those in the suits rely on. Blind faith. That's not being disrespectful, it's just how people are.

I could tell you a pack of lies and you may believe it, because you'd know no different. The context is almost irrelevant. It's a bit random but it's probably best how to explain it IMO.

Re: Winding up order ? : Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:43 pm  

BiffasBoys wrote:

Do some research into Bradford Trident, what it was about, who was behind it, who earned from it, what it actually achieved etc etc.

Let me be quite clear, I have nothing against the Bulls team or it's supporters. I think they are being led a merry dance by a bunch of shysters.

It's clear what you think, what isn't clear is why you think it. I asked a few basic questions and I get given an open ended research project.

How are we being led a merry dance by shysters? I pay for my ticket and up until now I've been allowed into the stadium and there's been a game on. The shirt I paid for is in the cupboard.

There are issues with the club but the context is that the club were losing 100k a month when they were receiving the full amount from Sky. There was a long drawn out process of administration and OK bought the club, maintained its SL status, fulfilled the fixtures, retained SL status and is now signing decent level players. If he makes the price of an onion bhaji out of it I'd be surprised but if he does, good luck to him. Nothing you've presented on here supports your view he or Sutcliffe (who's been around for years) are engaged in multiple conspiracies to defraud BMDC, Bradford Trident and/or the collective Bulls supporter.

Re: Winding up order ? : Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:52 pm  

BiffasBoys wrote:

This comment alone, never mind your ridiculous one about me being a previous poster, shows your inability to read & understand what I actually said.

Nope it shows you being careless. Since Adeybull hasn't been around during the currency of your present incarnation on the forum, yet you said "even he". A newbie with 40 posts wouldn't know Adeybull from Adam. Oops! You need to be more careful.

BiffasBoys wrote:

The rest of your post isn't even worth addressing

Haha you mean you just can't handle it.

Re: Winding up order ? : Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:57 pm  

M@islebugs wrote:

It's clear what you think, what isn't clear is why you think it. I asked a few basic questions and I get given an open ended research project.

How are we being led a merry dance by shysters? I pay for my ticket and up until now I've been allowed into the stadium and there's been a game on. The shirt I paid for is in the cupboard.

There are issues with the club but the context is that the club were losing 100k a month when they were receiving the full amount from Sky. There was a long drawn out process of administration and OK bought the club, maintained its SL status, fulfilled the fixtures, retained SL status and is now signing decent level players. If he makes the price of an onion bhaji out of it I'd be surprised but if he does, good luck to him. Nothing you've presented on here supports your view he or Sutcliffe (who's been around for years) are engaged in multiple conspiracies to defraud BMDC, Bradford Trident and/or the collective Bulls supporter.

I've pointed you in the direction of where to look. Whether or not you choose to is up to you.

Khan didn't maintain the clubs SL status. The RFL did. It had to otherwise it's £1m+ purchase of the Odsal lease would yield no return & have to be sold.

Similarly the RFL took the same action when it came to renewing for 2014, this despite it knowing of the unpaid tax bill & cash flow problems. SL status was never under threat.

How much is it losing a month for it not to be able to pay wages & tax bills on time without Khan proclaiming his recent investment?

Has anything actually changed?

Conspiracies to defraud? Your words, not mine.

Re: Winding up order ? : Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:02 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Nope it shows you being careless. Since Adeybull hasn't been around during the currency of your present incarnation on the forum, yet you said "even he". A newbie with 40 posts wouldn't know Adeybull from Adam. Oops! You need to be more careful.

Haha you mean you just can't handle it.

Careless? What is careless about reading posts on a forum on a website? I don't know Adeybull from Adam, that is true. Since when does reading his or anyone else's posts require membership or to have posted?

Silly boy.

Re: Winding up order ? : Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:11 pm  

BiffasBoys wrote:

I've pointed you in the direction of where to look. Whether or not you choose to is up to you.

Khan didn't maintain the clubs SL status. The RFL did. It had to otherwise it's £1m+ purchase of the Odsal lease would yield no return & have to be sold.

Similarly the RFL took the same action when it came to renewing for 2014, this despite it knowing of the unpaid tax bill & cash flow problems. SL status was never under threat.

How much is it losing a month for it not to be able to pay wages & tax bills on time without Khan proclaiming his recent investment?

Has anything actually changed?

Conspiracies to defraud? Your words, not mine.

You want me to go find the evidence to support your theory? Normally its common practice on RLfans that the poster making a case does the legwork themselves, particularly when calling the people 'shysters' and clearly inferring Vipin Joshi, Ian Greenwood, Gerry Sutcliffe and Omar Khan were linked to the misappropriation of funds from Bradford Council via Bradford Trident. You also referred to this matter being under investigation. I'm not asking for forensic detail, just who's being investigated by whom, and for what. Is there a link, a newspaper article, anything?

It's all juicy stuff and I'm keen to read it but so far all we've got appears to be late payment of a tax bill.

Re: Winding up order ? : Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:38 pm  

Oh dear, what did i start

Re: Winding up order ? : Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:02 pm  

A winding up order.

Re: Winding up order ? : Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:08 pm  

Just got back from a lovely week in the sun

Who's this idiot BiffasBoys

Re: Winding up order ? : Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:09 pm  

BiffasBoys wrote:

Careless? What is careless about reading posts on a forum on a website? I don't know Adeybull from Adam, that is true. Since when does reading his or anyone else's posts require membership or to have posted?

Silly boy.

So let me see, you never posted before, but you have read the forum as a guest without ever joining, for maybe years. Avidly, since you are able to remember and indeed cast aspersions about a poster who hasn't posted since April.

You "know" all this sh;t, but you never thought to barge in and spill the beans, and save us all from ourselves and from our evil rulers till just recently. Not, for example, when OK and GS first came on the scene. Not last season. Not at the start of this season. But now.

So disinterested have you previously been that you only bothered joining RLFans two days ago. Then suddenly, in a Damascene moment, you felt the overwhelming urge to ride on to RAB, and spew accusations, insults and libels around like a lawn sprinkler, as you suddenly want us to 'know the truth'. How am I doing? Have I got the gist so far?