Re: Khan leaves the bulls! : Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:27 pm  

Have to say I am delighted that this has happened. Hope his health is ok (no pun intended) but I cannot say I am too disappointed to see him go. I AM disappointed that he did not take Duffy with him though.

Was never convinced by him in the slightest, and, to be fair, this "illness" came on awfy quickly did it not?

2014 looking better already.

Re: Khan leaves the bulls! : Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:29 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Lives in a nice house in Halifax valued at about 450k

In fairness, if it was not in Halifax it would probs be valued at closer to £5 million. It just loses value by being situated in a shit-hole.

Re: Khan leaves the bulls! : Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:54 pm  

This is funny, gutterfax being just as stupid as someone predicted. Or, sneaky suspicion, have you guys been running a sweep on the pm as to what he was going to say?

Re: Khan leaves the bulls! : Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:48 pm  

martinwildbull wrote:

This is funny, gutterfax being just as stupid as someone predicted. Or, sneaky suspicion, have you guys been running a sweep on the pm as to what he was going to say?

It doesn't matter what he says, he'd claim the sky was orange if he thought it would be anti-Bradford.

But he doesn't like people pointing out that he claims his own opinions as bible truth. Which is ironic as his opinions are about as true as the bible.

Re: Khan leaves the bulls! : Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:17 pm  

martinwildbull wrote:

This is funny, gutterfax being just as stupid as someone predicted. Or, sneaky suspicion, have you guys been running a sweep on the pm as to what he was going to say?

seriously? I made an error about the tax statement of bedz r us......doesn't change the fact that 2 wheeling and dealing barrow boys have control of the Iconic Bradford Bulls..

The 2 guys who are taking over have very little success in business other than an On-line bed sales company that, whilst lucrative, offers no real insight into the day to day running of a professional sports organisation.
Mr Whitcut, who Mr Moore says

has more experience on the commercial and corporate entertainment side of it

....has, with Epic Hotels now being in liquidation, held directorships at 9 dissolved companies since 2006........that's more than one a year FFS
He may think he knows about corporate entertainment, but it would seem that the Bradford Public didn't agree......9 times.

Your New CEO, who I understand has also experience of running a pub and a Business degree, is the same guy who incorrectly tweeted in regards of the wages fiasco a couple of months back.

Last year OK said he wanted 10,000 ST's...this time around, Mr Moore has said between 6k and 10k. Given 6k left Bradford needing 7 figures in bail outs to get them through 2013, I'd say that unless they get Led Zep to reform for a one off in Bradford's Iconic Oddslum, then he'll need 10k.

The other money streams they are targeting is the Coral suite for banqueting/conferences and the club shop....both of which as I understand it, were available in 2013 but obviously didn't generate the required revenue.

On the topic of profitability....Mr Moore reckons within a year...

roofaldo2 wrote:

It doesn't matter what he says, he'd claim the sky was orange if he thought it would be anti-Bradford.

I'm not anti-Bradford....I just don't like the way your club begged for help, was bailed out by the RFL, bitched about the other clubs taking half your TV money in return for letting you survive, or the way your fans persistently declare all is well at the club when it is blatantly obvious that once again the club is teetering on the edge whilst decrying anyone who questions the morality of what's going on.
2 Barrow boys with no experience of running anything other than failed pubs and an online shop are now in charge of the ICONIC bradford Bulls....and, regardless of what tax bracket Bedz r Us are in, that is not a positive thing.

roofaldo2 wrote:

But he doesn't like people pointing out that he claims his own opinions as bible truth. Which is ironic as his opinions are about as true as the bible.

As I said, concentrate on the error about the tax bracket and ignore all the other stuff......9 failed businesses in 7 years........if alarm bells aren't ringing then they bloody well should be.

Re: Khan leaves the bulls! : Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:36 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Ooooh..all that to point out that I got the tax part wrong ...

For the benefit of posterity - documented proof above that if you get under the skin of even the most avid troll, they can be made to admit that they don't have a clue

Re: Khan leaves the bulls! : Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:28 am  

gutterfax wrote:

seriously? I made an error about the tax statement of bedz r us......doesn't change the fact that 2 wheeling and dealing barrow boys have control of the Iconic Bradford Bulls..

One of whom has been the general manager of the Bulls since Omar Khan took over last year. And again, your opinion of two men you've never met or know anything about beyond 5 minutes of trawling one internet site is being displayed by you AS THE TRUTH. That's YOUR OPINION being presented as FACT. Again.

gutterfax wrote:

The 2 guys who are taking over have very little success in business other than an On-line bed sales company that, whilst lucrative, offers no real insight into the day to day running of a professional sports organisation.
Mr Whitcut, who Mr Moore says
....has, with Epic Hotels now being in liquidation, held directorships at 9 dissolved companies since 2006........that's more than one a year FFS
He may think he knows about corporate entertainment, but it would seem that the Bradford Public didn't agree......9 times.

Ah, so having a lucrative company does not mean Mr Moore is a successful businessman. That's a new one on me. Hey everyone, having a lucrative company doesn't mean you're a successful businessman. It's Gutterfax's opinion so it MUST be fact.

gutterfax wrote:

Your New CEO, who I understand has also experience of running a pub and a Business degree, is the same guy who incorrectly tweeted in regards of the wages fiasco a couple of months back.

I would have thought you'd have more sympathy for someone who puts something on the internet they're wrong about.

gutterfax wrote:

Last year OK said he wanted 10,000 ST's...this time around, Mr Moore has said between 6k and 10k. Given 6k left Bradford needing 7 figures in bail outs to get them through 2013, I'd say that unless they get Led Zep to reform for a one off in Bradford's Iconic Oddslum, then he'll need 10k.

Again, proof of your anti-Bradford stance with your very witty (or is that witless?) naming of Odsal. And the new owners, who again you're ignoring actual facts like the fact that Ryan Whitcut has been GM at Bradford for the last 12 months so has a much better idea in terms of what's required for season ticket sales and the budget. Certainly, they know far more about Bradford's budgets, income and expenditure than you do.

gutterfax wrote:

The other money streams they are targeting is the Coral suite for banqueting/conferences and the club shop....both of which as I understand it, were available in 2013 but obviously didn't generate the required revenue.

Do you have figures to back up your opinion? I mean, clearly you know exactly what the budget and projections that were expected for the Coral Stand and club shop for last year? No? Oh I see, it's your opinion presented as fact AGAIN.

gutterfax wrote:

On the topic of profitability....Mr Moore reckons within a year...

So you mock the new owners as "barrow boys" then mock them again for wanting the club to be profitable. But you're not anti-Bradford?

gutterfax wrote:

I'm not anti-Bradford....I just don't like the way your club begged for help, was bailed out by the RFL, bitched about the other clubs taking half your TV money in return for letting you survive, or the way your fans persistently declare all is well at the club when it is blatantly obvious that once again the club is teetering on the edge whilst decrying anyone who questions the morality of what's going on.
2 Barrow boys with no experience of running anything other than failed pubs and an online shop are now in charge of the ICONIC bradford Bulls....and, regardless of what tax bracket Bedz r Us are in, that is not a positive thing.

Oh you're really not anti-Bradford? The club did ask for help BEFORE they went out of business. But that is over a year ago. There's not been any additional requests for fans of other clubs or other clubs themselves to give money to save Bradford again in that time. But I think what really irks you about that is that other clubs WANTED to save Bradford, but it's not likely there'd be the same level of support to save your club.
The club were no more "bailed out" by the RFL than any other club has been. But again that's your anti-Bradford bias rearing it's head again.

You say the club is teetering on the edge. Again, do you have ANYTHING to back that up? Or are you, as you have consistently, again presenting YOUR OPINION as FACT. I think we both know that you haven't anything solid to back up your argument other than slurs, rumours and just general drivel that you present as fact.

gutterfax wrote:

As I said, concentrate on the error about the tax bracket and ignore all the other stuff......9 failed businesses in 7 years........if alarm bells aren't ringing then they bloody well should be.

That's not your only error, but at least you've managed to grow as a person enough to admit you're not as infallible as you'd like everyone to think with your opinions presented as fact.

Re: Khan leaves the bulls! : Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:02 am  

gutterfax wrote:

let's hope the 10,000 ST target gets hit eh

That's not the only thing I hope gets hit...

Re: Khan leaves the bulls! : Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:27 am  

roofaldo2 wrote:

snip.

hindle xiii wrote:

That's not the only thing I hope gets hit...

[Bulliac]

Re: Khan leaves the bulls! : Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:52 am  

hindle xiii wrote:

That's not the only thing I hope gets hit...

Actually, the 10K target for season tickets really is sooooo last year and hasn't been mentioned this time round. I'm sure they've budgeted to an internal target but haven't left themselves as hostages to fortune this time. Yet another of the Fax he's got wrong..