Re: Jarrod Sanmut : Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:54 am  

Peter Hood wrote:

I'm surprised it's taken you this long to realise the financial difficulties the club are facing are very much real. Whilst Marc Green continues to take out more than he puts in, we are doomed to failure.

Season ticket sales won't hit 2500, let alone the ridiculous figure of 5000. This putting more pressure on Parker and Hunter Paul, who have already got to find an extra £300,000 shortfall via increased sponsorship sales.

Worrying times. Hopefully the players wages for December are paid on time.

I have noticed that there is a lot of 'buy this' and buy that' going on from Bradford at the moment on my news feed along with a new enticement that half of the spend goes towards something called Buy Bulls or something. eg if you spend £45.99 on a Bulls hoodie (£45.99 for a hoodie!!!!) £23 goes towards funding the team up to the new SC or something.

I read somewhere that the RFL set your maximum SC spend at £1.34M. Now this must be based on a budget for the year put forward by the club. This would suggest there are no problems wouldn't it.

Re: Jarrod Sanmut : Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:02 pm  

The Financial penny is starting to drop, MG isn't going to spend what the Club hasn't got so apart from more or larger moneyed Sponsors it will be up to the Fans to commit to buying Season Tickets, there are too many using excuses not to, but not realising that is exacerbating the situation with regards to buying so called quality Players, as for "Peter" False Hood purporting to know the Clubs present finances, he has not said anything that is verifiable and second guessing the rest!

Re: Jarrod Sanmut : Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:05 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

I have noticed that there is a lot of 'buy this' and buy that' going on from Bradford at the moment on my news feed along with a new enticement that half of the spend goes towards something called Buy Bulls or something. eg if you spend £45.99 on a Bulls hoodie (£45.99 for a hoodie!!!!) £23 goes towards funding the team up to the new SC or something.

I read somewhere that the RFL set your maximum SC spend at £1.34M. Now this must be based on a budget for the year put forward by the club. This would suggest there are no problems wouldn't it.

Don't know where you read 1.34M but it's not a figure I've seen reported by anyone.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Jarrod Sanmut : Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:08 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

I read somewhere that the RFL set your maximum SC spend at £1.34M.

I thought that was what yours was set at, or is that just a very similar amount?

Re: Jarrod Sanmut : Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:15 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

I have noticed that there is a lot of 'buy this' and buy that' going on from Bradford at the moment on my news feed

That seems to have been the case since MG took over to be honest. Or at least certainly for the best part of a year. The website is full of news stories on how you can give more money to the club. The Twitter feed is too. And let's not forget "BullsApp" which I had to delete after a month or two as I was sick of it telling me all the ways I could spend more money rather than any actual news.

To be fair to the club, there isn't much in the way of news they can offer at the moment. We're at a traditionally low point when it comes to stories, so it's not surprising there isn't much else being trotted out. And if constantly telling people what they can spend their money on actually works and helps the club make money, who can blame them for doing it?

Personally, it puts me off even looking at the website or the Twitter feed, but I'm sure it must work to an extent or they wouldn't do it. As long as I'm in the minority, I'm not that fussed.

Re: Jarrod Sanmut : Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:32 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Don't know where you read 1.34M but it's not a figure I've seen reported by anyone.

It was either in a LoveRugby League website article or in one of the RL papers this week. I noticed it because the figure was slightly higher than the one quoted for Leigh which was £1.31M. It was definitely in print somewhere this week as it also mentioned the BUY BULLS initiative.

So to all you affluent Bulls fans there is a Xmas Sale on and the new Premium Bulls range where it is stating half your spend goes towards the new initiative to fund the team. That is some markup on those goods if you are making a profit in excess of 50% on these goods which is what it actually suggests to me. If the markup isn't 50% then where are you finding the money for your supplier. Someone needs to start asking questions before it is too late.

edit: I have just re read the sales blurb and it seems a proverbial 50% goes towards the team based on the RFLs SC rule of '50% of relevant income'.

[Bulliac]

Re: Jarrod Sanmut : Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:15 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

It was either in a LoveRugby League website article or in one of the RL papers this week. I noticed it because the figure was slightly higher than the one quoted for Leigh which was £1.31M. It was definitely in print somewhere this week as it also mentioned the BUY BULLS initiative.

So to all you affluent Bulls fans there is a Xmas Sale on and the new Premium Bulls range where it is stating half your spend goes towards the new initiative to fund the team. That is some markup on those goods if you are making a profit in excess of 50% on these goods which is what it actually suggests to me. If the markup isn't 50% then where are you finding the money for your supplier. Someone needs to start asking questions before it is too late.

edit: I have just re read the sales blurb and it seems a proverbial 50% goes towards the team based on the RFLs SC rule of '50% of relevant income'.

This is basically what we've been told. Under the new 'interpretation' of the cap rules, the cap for SL and Championship - and I assume Championship 1, is exactly the same and it's all based entirely on income. PG's statement, that 50% of shop sales qualifies go to the team is simplistic but is just setting out what we can spend under the cap. Personally, I'm pretty sure there may well be other calls on our 'spending money', so whether we can actually spend that amount on the team, and still remain in business, might be another matter.

Incidentally, I'm surprised that some have only just noticed the higher end prices on club clothing. This is not new and has been the case for as long as I can remember, and certainly long before Marc Green became chairman. I think it's fair to say it applies to all other clubs too and most likely other sports - it certainly does in soccer. We know it's expensive, but we want to wear our clubs' colours and, ultimately the money goes to our club, so we pay it and smile......

Re: Jarrod Sanmut : Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:18 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Incidentally, I'm surprised that some have only just noticed the higher end prices on club clothing. This is not new and has been the case for as long as I can remember, and certainly long before Marc Green became chairman. I think it's fair to say it applies to all other clubs too and most likely other sports - it certainly does in soccer. We know it's expensive, but we want to wear our clubs' colours and, ultimately the money goes to our club, so we pay it and smile......

Spot on. They've been expensive for as long as I can remember. But as you say, you grin and bear it a little more when you know the money is going towards the club you love, rather than into Mr. Debenhams' money chest. Are you being ripped off? Yeah, probably. But with the amount they sell compared to the amount big retail stores shift, they probably need a bigger markup to make it worthwhile.
It's almost like wondering why the corner shop charges 30p more for a loaf of bread than Tesco do.

Re: Jarrod Sanmut : Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:31 pm  

Message to Marc Green, get some Bull Bread in £5 a loaf.....they'd pay it!

Merry Xmas all

Re: Jarrod Sanmut : Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:33 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

Message to Marc Green, get some Bull Bread in £5 a loaf.....they'd pay it!

You may joke, but I bet some people would!