Re: Jake Mullaney : Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:50 pm  

Well if we get up to 3k I'd say we'd have done pretty well to be honest. I assume Green didn't hint how far away from breaking even we were?

Re: Jake Mullaney : Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:12 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

4000 fans spending £900 means an income of £3.6m.

So that’s £1,775,000 required on non-players salaries.

Interesting.

I think we’ll be lucky to get anywhere near 4000 members let alone 4000 contributing £900 a year. That kind of outlay is ludicrous. There’s unlikely to be anyone able or willing to spend almost a grand on the Bulls in a year.

I’d expect even the most committed fan to struggle to pay more than £500 a year. Most won’t get near that.

TBF Bullseye, that kind of outlay would be what is required to spend £1.85million, not to keep the club full time, break even etc

Think all Marc Green is saying is we CAN spend an SL cap, but with virtuallly no away support, not much central funding, for us to be able to spend that money 4000 fans would have to spend £900 each.

Re: Jake Mullaney : Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:33 pm  

The idea that I'd spend anywhere near £900 per season is ludicrous

I don't know about anyone else, but apart from my season ticket I hardly spend anything at all in the stadium. Around where we sit, you might see a few (only a few!) people with a tray of chips or a pint, but the vast majority do just what we do i.e. turn up, watch the game, and go home!

Sorry if that makes me look like a tightwad, but having forked out £280 for a membership, I really don't have anything more to put into the pot!

Re: Jake Mullaney : Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:08 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Well if we get up to 3k I'd say we'd have done pretty well to be honest. I assume Green didn't hint how far away from breaking even we were?

I don't have the figures for the season just gone, but during the 2014 season the accounts filed show the club lost £600,000 to the financial year. Obviously you can factor in reduced Sky TV monies as mitigation for such considerable loss.

Let's imagine the club do sell 3,000 at £250 that would be £1,650,000 when added to the £870,000 Sky TV money. When home and away walk through support is added that figure would further increase to £1,910,000.

Since relegation the sponsorship deals have decreased, but are still at a vastly significant level to take the figure to £2,400,000.

Re: Jake Mullaney : Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:17 pm  

Sounds like the Bulls could do with more of the "party" fans who get vexed every game if we need people to spend 900 notes a year!

Re: Jake Mullaney : Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:53 pm  

I think I have spent approximately....


...er.....nothing at every game this year.

Where have they got £900 per person from? Insane.

Re: Jake Mullaney : Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:46 pm  

Been thinking about this. When he was discussing the new salary cap rules, The exact phrase used was 50% of the clubs "relevant income" up to a maximum of £1.85m. Then he listed tickets, spending in the ground, merchandising etc. But he didn't mention 2 of our bigger income streams as being "relevant income" ie central funding & sponsorship. Was that an accidental omission? Because the RFL guidelines online (admittedly not updated yet) includes them.

Re: Jake Mullaney : Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:39 am  

Peter Hood wrote:

I don't have the figures for the season just gone, but during the 2014 season the accounts filed show the club lost £600,000 to the financial year. Obviously you can factor in reduced Sky TV monies as mitigation for such considerable loss.

Let's imagine the club do sell 3,000 at £250 that would be £1,650,000 when added to the £870,000 Sky TV money. When home and away walk through support is added that figure would further increase to £1,910,000.

Since relegation the sponsorship deals have decreased, but are still at a vastly significant level to take the figure to £2,400,000.

Don't forget about the VAT Peter. Although I suppose old habits die hard

[Bullseye]

Re: Jake Mullaney : Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:57 am  

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Re: Jake Mullaney : Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:39 am  

debaser wrote:

I think I have spent approximately....


...er.....nothing at every game this year.

Where have they got £900 per person from? Insane.

No. I barely spent that much even when it included a weekend in Catalan - and that weekend would have been for two anyway.

I rarely spend anything in the ground since the programme was done away with. I do sometimes use the shop on matchdays but that is spending that would have been done anyway, just on another day. I haven't worked out how much I spend other than membership but it's basically one [occasionally two] replica shirts, the odd T-shirt and/or Jacket, away match tickets and coach travel to the the away games - except the very close ones. Sometimes, if I go to the shop during the week for match tickets, the wife has a look round a buys something too, but it comes to nowhere near £900.
I did forget the lottery that's £13 a quarter - double that, as the Mrs does the same.