Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:28 pm  

Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:

The money we loose from an extra 2k attendance once a season will be more than replaced by sharing out your £300k central funding.

You've perhaps not noticed but the whole competition structure is predicated on 12 teams per league.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:29 pm  

Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:

The money we loose from an extra 2k attendance once a season will be more than replaced by sharing out your £300k central funding.

That won't happen. Without a club there isn't any central funding to share out.

You'll just have to lose a player or two.

Cut your cloth so to speak.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:30 pm  

Further details of why Championship place has been offered, and under what sanctions here

Further details of why Championship place has been offered, and under what sanctions here

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:30 pm  

daveyz999 wrote:

I so hope we get a team this year, and then we hammer Halifax at the Shay.

That would be lovely..ha

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:31 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

I tend to agree with that but it also devalues the Championship having no team for Hull KR to play at the summer bash. Teams getting byes every week in the league and season tickets at all clubs now being worth less than what they were bought at (plus club's losing income).

So either way it's not really very good is it? RFL are in between a rock and a hard place brought about the people that have run Bradford Bulls over the last 10-15 years.

Personally I'd prefer to sit the season out and see a new club formed properly and not at the last minute. Apply for entry into League 1 and build properly from there. Even if it means years as a semi pro team with no academy etc. At least it would be right.

Agree with all that

No lover of the RFL, but they were 'damned if they did, damned if they didn't' this time...

[Nat (Rugby_Aholic)]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:31 pm  

Highlander wrote:

This is the problem. We did have enough to meet our obligations before Green took over.

I've spoken to Calvert, they had steadied the ship, no debt, income/outgoings were balanced.
Then Green appeared as a complicating factor, and he was invited into the club by Whitcut.

Then 2years later, we're bust. And the owner is now being investigated for obtaining money by deception & false accounting.

If any criminality is proven, how is any of this the fault of the players, staff, fans or indeed, the RFL?

Its not at all their fault. But neither is it a reason to give a new Bradford the gift of free entry into the Championship. Tolouse, Toronto and many others had to start at the bottom and work their way up. Why does your successive screw ups make you eligible for special treatment?
A new club has to earn its place in the second tier.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:32 pm  

Very difficult circumstances now regarding re-staffing.Unless someone bankrolls to enable continuity of existing playing staff full time as prior. Then, indeed, we face losing most, if the decision is to go part time.Has to be development of Odsal and get the lease back otherwise we would be back where we started.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:33 pm  

Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:

The money we loose from an extra 2k attendance once a season will be more than replaced by sharing out your £300k central funding.

That's gone, already been used to pay players wages.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:33 pm  

el red wrote:

Sorry it came to this but as I said a while ago it was coming. Some things the fans need to know: The debilitating finance for next season regards the contracts the club entered into with players who the RFL had warned them couldn't be registered, yet they still signed them. The people responsible for these signing are the Head Coach and general manager who was in charge of monitoring the salary cap.

You don't sign players like Lachlan Burr if he can't be registered so the only reason you would do it is as a last ditch effort to boost season ticket sales. Marc Green has obtained all the season ticket money by deception.

Agree El Red. Rohan was in cahoots with Green and Duffy at the time with all three knowing the money had run out, yet still signing players in the hope of gambling that they would sell enough season tickets to see out the off season.

Marc Green was down on the creditors list for £960,000 when I have it on good authority he never put anything close to that in.

I have my suspicions who the RFL are going to favour in this new bidding process and you be rest assured that now there's a clean slate to build on, some of the people currently working at the club who have contributed to the decline of the bulls will be out the door.

[Nat (Rugby_Aholic)]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:34 pm  

vbfg wrote:

You've perhaps not noticed but the whole competition structure is predicated on 12 teams per league.

Rules can be changed at a moments notice it would seem, we have no TV coverage obligating us to have 12 teams unlike SL. So more money for all of us.