Main Stand Ticket Checking - Better this week??? : Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:57 am  

How does everybody think it went this week with the ticket checking, we wont go into the Steward situation here as that I think is a different issue and one I'm not happy with either.

I watched folks coming in and with the Stewards being mostly at the top of the aisles where they should have been last week things seemed to be better, even when you had the 5 minutes before kick off mad rush to get in from the bars.

Also for anyone that mentioned it I will be pleading with Ryan as I did on the night to tone down the volume on those speakers, that was over the top to say the least.

Just drop me a PM with anything specific.

Cheers and take care all

Gill.

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:19 am  

Update for anybody who's not checked the Bull's Site BradfordBulls Doesn't affect me tho', I stand with the heaving masses.

Update for anybody who's not checked the Bull's Site BradfordBulls Doesn't affect me tho', I stand with the heaving masses.

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:32 am  

Didn't check our tickets v hudds

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:26 am  

I made a point of studiously ignoring the jobsworth at the top of the steps, walked straight past with pint and hotdog in hands. No problem, but then again I could have easily not had a ticket at all, and there's the problem for the club. I think the new system is barking.

A couple of minutes before the end, I made my way to the 'car park end' of the back of the stand to watch the last minute of action from there, and another jobsworth tried to move me on, presumably because I am a fire hazard or something equally stupid. I totally ignored that one too, working on the basis that in the space of a minute or so, there was nothing they could or would do, so "pretend they're imaginary" is my advice.

Like the human bollards posted at the end of Stadium Road "to stop you turning right". Well, yes, they have a whole lot of authority to do that, don't they!

On another note, I've made a point (with the benefit of HD) of looking at the carryings on in Premier League grounds and there are many areas in the "stands" where fans do, indeed, stand all the time, and nobody tries to stop them. In effect, all football stewards are required to do, it seems to me, is sit on the grass looking at the crowd for 90 minutes, except if a goal is scored, when they are required to stand up and stretch their arms out, scarecrow-wise, between the celebrating players and the nearest fans. Why are we seeing an apparent insidious advance of active "stewarding", didn't we have more than enough of these sort of ignorant jobsworth tosspots at VP?

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:35 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

didn't we have more than enough of these sort of ignorant jobsworth tosspots at VP?

It occurs to me that, should a pic of you happen to fall into the hands of said "Ignorant jobsworth tosspots", and should they wish to debate with you the extent to which they agree with your definition on your next visit, you might find events develop not necessarily to your advantage...?

I'm normally the last person to defend ignorant jobsworth tosspots - had years of dealing with their types at work, collectively the Business and Job Destruction Agency it seemed to me, and every year their numbers seem to grow. But these guys at Odsal are likely getting paid the minimum wage and and likely only doing what their boss in a brighter jacket with a clipboard is telling them to do. Methinks maybe you are blaming the infantry for the lack of common sense of some higher up the food chain?

And anyway, you are Richard Littlejohn and I claim my £5...

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:17 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I made a point of studiously ignoring the jobsworth at the top of the steps, walked straight past with pint and hotdog in hands. No problem, but then again I could have easily not had a ticket at all, and there's the problem for the club. I think the new system is barking.

A couple of minutes before the end, I made my way to the 'car park end' of the back of the stand to watch the last minute of action from there, and another jobsworth tried to move me on, presumably because I am a fire hazard or something equally stupid. I totally ignored that one too, working on the basis that in the space of a minute or so, there was nothing they could or would do, so "pretend they're imaginary" is my advice.

Like the human bollards posted at the end of Stadium Road "to stop you turning right". Well, yes, they have a whole lot of authority to do that, don't they!

On another note, I've made a point (with the benefit of HD) of looking at the carryings on in Premier League grounds and there are many areas in the "stands" where fans do, indeed, stand all the time, and nobody tries to stop them. In effect, all football stewards are required to do, it seems to me, is sit on the grass looking at the crowd for 90 minutes, except if a goal is scored, when they are required to stand up and stretch their arms out, scarecrow-wise, between the celebrating players and the nearest fans. Why are we seeing an apparent insidious advance of active "stewarding", didn't we have more than enough of these sort of ignorant jobsworth tosspots at VP?

A pretty stupid view to take if you ask me.
What if everyone had your attitude, chaos would soon decend. And you would probably be the first to complain about the lack of control of the situation.

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:29 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

A pretty stupid view to take if you ask me.
What if everyone had your attitude, chaos would soon decend. And you would probably be the first to complain about the lack of control of the situation.

Chaos never existed in the previous several decades, is the point. There was and is no need for any of this, is the point. Once I got in to the stand area I was not constantly being approached by guards, who are naturally only obeying orders, demanding "Your PAPERS", is the point.

So WHAT chaos, and why in the last few decades did this feared chaos never visit itself upon our collective heads?

Eh?

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:37 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

It occurs to me that, should a pic of you happen to fall into the hands of said "Ignorant jobsworth tosspots", and should they wish to debate with you the extent to which they agree with your definition on your next visit, you might find events develop not necessarily to your advantage...?

Not a bit of it, I'm about as affable a fellow as they ever meet, if they don't do anything ludicrous, but where it is merited I will, and have, explain my opinion in such simple language.

Adeybull wrote:

Methinks maybe you are blaming the infantry for the lack of common sense of some higher up the food chain?

I'm not blaiming them, they are my point of contact. It isn't personal, I am criticising the post, not the post holder. If they disagree with my views they can always summon a higher jobsworth until we find one whose fault it is. That only ever happened once to date, when someone (whom i didn't know) was being removed from the stand on a trumped up charge of misbehaviour. It ended with the jobsworth being quietly led away by his boss instead. (And it wasn't just me, so I'm not taking all the credit)

PS I detest that rabble rousing twaat Littlejohn witha passion reserved for very few so even though I know you were kidding . . .

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:45 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Chaos never existed in the previous several decades, is the point. There was and is no need for any of this, is the point. Once I got in to the stand area I was not constantly being approached by guards, who are naturally only obeying orders, demanding "Your PAPERS", is the point.

So WHAT chaos, and why in the last few decades did this feared chaos never visit itself upon our collective heads?

Eh?

I said IF EVERYONE had your attitude....thankfully, they don't.

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:51 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

I said IF EVERYONE had your attitude....thankfully, they don't.

And I asked you, what chaos?

We've never had this "chaos", whilst never previously having this "system".
The "threat of chaos" has been 100% disproved by the absence of any such chaos in the past few decades. Despite the almost ever-presence of me and "my attitude".

You'll have to do better.